She's doing great, we had a fantastic time together. And she loved the movie!How is she? I haven't heard from her in over a year.Just popping in to say that I saw Into Darkness for the 4th time last week, this time in the United States with Yeoman Randi!![]()
After more than 2600 replies, I think a wee bit of "thread drift" is natural and somewhat inevitable! Things tend to worm their way back on topic though.Why are we talking about ESB?
The Fast & Furious sequels have always been frontloaded. The franchise's audience skews young, they rush to see the films early on and a fast drop-off follows, even when word of mouth is good. The really impressive thing about the F&F films is the huge growth in international box office.Funny how it has more staying power than Fast/Furious, but wasn't as front-loaded...
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trek did not make the list. which means to an extent it has been a box office disappointment
one of the most trusted entertainment sites ever
trek did not make the list. which means to an extent it has been a box office disappointment
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I'm pretty certain most studios would LOVE to have $450m+ "disappointments" akin to STID.one of the most trusted entertainment sites ever
trek did not make the list. which means to an extent it has been a box office disappointment
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what not a joke![]()
Laugh all you want. However what they said is the solid truth. it is left for the wise to humble themselves and listen instead of making a joke out of the truth that remains unchangeable.
Before Trek came out. another trusted entertainment site box office mojo said if STiD doesn't earn up to 250m in USA it would be a disappointment. Sadly, STiD has not done that.
Are you going to laugh at box office mojo as well?
oh well....![]()
The title of the article is "The 15 Most IMPRESSIVE box office performances."guys please read this article from Entertainment Weekly, one of the most trusted entertainment sites ever
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/07/07/best-box-office-performances-2013/
trek did not make the list. which means to an extent it has been a box office disappointment. I think it is time for us to face reality and look to the future. I hope next time the producers of trek 3 would not listen to a loud minority of trek fans who are demanding that Trek goes back to TOS Mode.
I am not disrespecting TOS. TOS was great of its time. The series is a classic and it even made EW 100 greatest TV shows of all time.
However TOS is now of the past , what made trek 09 a huge success was because it was bold, fresh , unapologetic and daring. Even with its flaws it is without a doubt an outstanding film.
STiD was much more of a huge fan service to TOS trek fans thereby alienating new fans...The box office is proof of that.
STiD is still a huge success but it was not as successful as the studios intended. world wide the film needs to do 500m for it to be a success without question. Sadly it wont get there.
STiD should have done 270m+ in USA and 500m Worldwide.
and this bitwhich means to an extent it has been a box office disappointment.
Are completely incompatible.STiD is still a huge success
You mean "hoped". They're still gonna make a big profit and there will be a third movie. What more could a fan want? EVERY movie wishes it could pull Dark Knight/Avengers numbers. That doesn't mean every movie that doesn't is a disappointment. There is quite a leap between making a profit and taking over the world.but it was not as successful as the studios intended.
You mean the *massive* overseas gains over the last movie? Alienating new fans?STiD was much more of a huge fan service to TOS trek fans thereby alienating new fans...The box office is proof of that.
No, what it means (and the only thing it means) is that Star Trek Into Darkness wasn't given a spot on a 15-slot list which the list's own writer acknowledges is highly subjective and "totally-up-for-debate".guys please read this article from Entertainment Weekly, one of the most trusted entertainment sites ever
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/07/07/best-box-office-performances-2013/
trek did not make the list. which means to an extent it has been a box office disappointment.
EW article said:We’re officially halfway through 2013, and if you’re an obsessive box office junkie like me, that means it’s time to reflect back on the past six months at the movies and give credit to some of the best box office performances so far this year.
By “best,” I don’t simply mean “highest grossing” — you can find that list here – I mean most impressive. Since each movie has its own budget, its own marketing costs, and its own distribution challenges, each movie also has its own standard for success. I like to judge films on their own rubrics — so I have!
This year, there were a lot of close calls. Films like Oz The Great and Powerful and This is the End were this close to making the list (A Good Day to Die Hard and Jack the Giant Slayer, meanwhile, were not), but not everything could make the cut. Thus, here is my totally-up-for-debate list of the 15 Most Impressive Box Office Performances of 2013 so far. (Shown in order of highest-to-lowest grossing)
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Laugh all you want. However what they said is the solid truth.
Of course, you've neglected to provide a link to where BoxOfficeMojo is supposed to have said this, but if you follow the link in the EW excerpt above, you'll see that BOM shows Iron Man 3 with a clear lead, Man of Steel next, and then F&F6, Oz, and STID all grouped pretty close together in the 3-4-5 spots, and not that far from the $250-mil domestic milepost. I wouldn't be surprised to see two of the three reach that before their runs end.it is left for the wise to humble themselves and listen instead of making a joke out of the truth that remains unchangeable.
Before Trek came out. another trusted entertainment site box office mojo said if STiD doesn't earn up to 250m in USA it would be a disappointment. Sadly, STiD has not done that.
Are you going to laugh at box office mojo as well?
oh well....![]()
Funny, I thought Star Trek did transparent cell walls long before the Avengers.The thing about The Dark Knight is that nobody there hoped to make a billion with it. Batman Begins was a modest success, and they expected TDK to perform the same. It's just the hype around Ledger's death AND that the film was surprisingly well done that it made those huge numbers. But the point is that they never intended to make that HUGE box office smash hit, they just intended to make a good film. And if you ask me, it shows.
nuTrek Into Darkness was intended to make big bucks first, by copying elements from all successful films coming before it. They wanted to expand the foreign market, so they put London in it and advertised the hell out of that. They wanted TDK and Avengers numbers, so they tried to cash in on that now rather stereotypical super villain with a twisted plan story, and went all out trying to sell this as this DARK film. And they even included the glass prison from Avengers and a forced version of the hero to villain dialog from TDK. And they looked back at what Trek film was the most popular, and ripped that off as much as they could.
STD just feels pretty much in your face to me in that regard.
There's not enough juice left in the tank for any of those three to reach $250 million domestic....and then F&F6, Oz, and STID all grouped pretty close together in the 3-4-5 spots, and not that far from the $250-mil domestic milepost. I wouldn't be surprised to see two of the three reach that before their runs end.
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