Roddenberry's Worst Ideas
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Imagine how funny it would have been seeing him use the rocket boosters to zoom through the stairwells.
--Sran
Started by the same poster whose arguing against them in this thread.
That could certainly explain that grating pomposity that most of the crew tend to exhibit at least occasionally.
As someone who has very little patience with the preachiness of TNG, I have to admit I never thought they were being preachy about alcohol, simply stating that they had a similar tasting beverage without the intoxicating effects. Essentially, they just finally got near-beer right.
That makes no sense to me. The only reason to put up with the taste of beer is for the intoxication.
Actually it make 100% sense to have no real alcohol on a star ship.
I mean you dont want the crew to go off duty to a party get pissed then a borg ships appears?
Anyway I though synthahol did have intoxicating effects but they went rather quickly. So rather than knocking back beers and then waiting hours before you can drive. You can still knock those beers back then wait 30mins then drive!
I mean you dont want the crew to go off duty to a party get pissed then a borg ships appears?
Anyway I though synthahol did have intoxicating effects but they went rather quickly. So rather than knocking back beers and then waiting hours before you can drive. You can still knock those beers back then wait 30mins then drive!
I'm very sorry for your experience, but have you considered that the alcohol wasn't the source of the problem and the fault stemmed directly from your brother?
If space were that limited, then get rid of the corridors too and just have interconnecting rooms. You would also eliminate private living quarters for all but the most senior officers, I mean Lieutenant Uhura had a pair of private connecting rooms. Apparently space aboard the ship isn't that constrained.
The turbo lifts are the ship's transportation system, in addition to personal, they likely move equipment and freight about the ship too. They're not just taxi cabs, they're delivery trucks.
Judging by Scotty's immediate reaction to what he drank, I don't believe it tasted "similar."
The entire crew doesn't go off duty at the same time, and it's unlikely that all the ones off duty at any one time are drinking to the point they're intoxicated.
Not all beers taste the same, the flavors and textures vary pretty widely. Plus certain foods are accentuated by alcohol, spicy with beer, fish with wine, steak with scotch.
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I believe I understand you point, and while I can respect where it's coming from, I don't agree with your position.
Don't get me wrong. I can easily see there being a regulation prohibiting drinking to the point where you're impaired and couldn't perform your duties if suddenly recalled to duty.
But that not the same as completely eliminating all alcohol on board.
On those rare occasions that you're allowed to drink on US Navy ships (beer day), you must be at least four hours away from your next assigned duty shift.
Any Human? Again we disagree, by the 24th century having a genetic predisposition toward alcoholism will have been either solved or at least be identifiable, those so identified would need to engage in personal responsibility and self control.
Others who became alcoholics through deliberate actions would likely either be given treatment, or asked to resign. I would imagine this would be the case with any form of substance abuse or disruptive personal behavior.
The "best way" would be to have people who you can trust around alcohol.
Wouldn't selecting people capable of self control be better still? This attribute would extend not just to drink, but other areas.
You missing something. These people aren't just going out on a six month deployment to sea, they are living years and decades of their lives aboard the starships and at the starbases to which they're assigned.
There was no sign that consuming the Romulan Ale in any way slowed or altered the officers responses. While Kirk and Chekov both were experiencing headaches (and maybe body aches), their abilities to preform their duties was intact. And Scotty showed no effects at all, neither did McCoy.
In that case, your issue is with the goofy and incredibly impractical shape of Trek's spaceships. If Trek suddenly started having sensibly shaped vessels, it just wouldn't be the same.
But why would you need Alcahol with synathol onboard? If you cant do without the real booze then you have a problem.
And if synthahol existed then I bet beer day would be replaced with synthahol where ever whenever.
Well yeah but sythahol onboard works.
Well again YOU HAVE SYNTHAHOL if you want to stay at home and booze up all day then dont join starfleet. Otherwise have synthahol that does the same thing but which side go quicker and isnt addictive.
There was no sign that consuming the Romulan Ale in any way slowed or altered the officers responses. While Kirk and Chekov both were experiencing headaches (and maybe body aches), their abilities to preform their duties was intact. And Scotty showed no effects at all, neither did McCoy.
So even though my repsonses seem ok after a few beers I should be ok to drive even though Im over the Drink driveing limit? Thats ok is it?
Same with driveing hung over? That ok even though its shown to impair responses (normaly if hung over your still over the limit anyway?). No maybe it would not have made a diffrence in the situation but the principle still the same. And they did get caught out as the fact they were still probably slightly intoxicated was brought out in the trial, so it gave the klingons fuel to use.
Not all beers taste the same, the flavors and textures vary pretty widely. Plus certain foods are accentuated by alcohol, spicy with beer, fish with wine, steak with scotch.
Meh. Different beers simply taste like different variations of shit to me. Except one I had which was called sour & sweet. Apparently that wasn't very popular at the brewpub though.
Synthehol was just something they made up to sound futuristic, but we have it already. It's called "non-alcoholic" or "near" beer and "virgin" drinks.
I'm pretty sure that in the 24th century there are rules regarding the consumption of alcohol by ship's crew, just like there are in today's military.
The premise of the discussion, in my opinion, is a little ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure that in the 24th century there are rules regarding the consumption of alcohol by ship's crew, just like there are in today's military.
The premise of the discussion, in my opinion, is a little ridiculous.
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It was Voyager's "Dark Frontier" in which Tom Paris said that the "new world economy" took over in the late 22nd century, eliminating money. TOS referenced money in "Errand of Mercy" and "Trouble With Tribbles", then Kirk said they don't use money in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and then Scotty mentioned buying a boat in STVI: The Undiscovered Country. Most recently, Kirk offered to pay for Uhura's drink in Star Trek.
It's a little muddled, to say the least.
It's a little muddled, to say the least.
DS9 makes it clear that money is alive and well in both the Federation and the galaxy, and that the no money thing is confined to humanity, as a whole. DS9: In the Cards even ridicules the idea of a money-less society, comparing it, in so many words, to a whacked-out hippie commune.
DS9: In the Cards said:
I had always assumed that "no money" did not preclude having (electronic or virtual) currency. Within the Federation, currency would not be a commodity in itself, but that individual would still be credited for their labors and contributions. Within larger governments (first, United Earth, second, UFP), currency could exist as a measure of exchanges on an abstract level, as along as all the members agree to standards for earnings and exchanges. It would only be a problem when UFP citizens made contracts with those from other governments. The only time money was used was on DS9, and even then it seemed that Starfleet personel were not eager to conduct business in "latinum," but preferred to exchange materials.
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