• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

RAMA said:
LOKAI of CHERON said:
A low budget doesn't necessarily correlate to a "cheap" appearance on screen.
Click to expand...

Well..

I still think a lot of the "cheap" TV look from STVI is because it was filmed in Super 35.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
OK, you think it looks "cheap" because it was shot on Super 35 - I don't agree. All the movies I own shot on Super 35, including Titanic and Terminator 2, do not, IMHO, look any the worse for it either.

What is it about Super 35 that makes it look "cheap" for you?
 
They did a better job re-dressing the sets than Star Trek V: The Final Frontier did; this is especially evident in the way the movie re-dressed the corridors.
 
Another interesting tidbit: Compare ST09 to STID's 4th weekend:

2009/05/29 5 $3,619,568 +93% 3,507 $1,032 $200,319,725 22 2009/05/30 5 $5,385,521 +49% 3,507 $1,536 $205,705,246 23 2009/05/31 5 $3,608,638 -33% 3,507 $1,029 $209,313,884 24
STID:

2013/06/07 7 $3,230,412 +84% 3,152 $1,025 $191,670,851 22 2013/06/08 5 $4,935,524 +53% 3,152 $1,566 $196,606,375 23 2013/06/09 6 $3,259,819 -34% 3,152 $1,034 $199,866,194 24

350 fewer theaters. Making about the same amount of money. Only about $9 million off at that point.

Just as an aside, STID's gross from China alone is higher than Nemesis' TOTAL international box office revenue.

RAMA
 
Out Of My Vulcan Mind said:
Monday's take: $1,334,349 for $201,200,543 to date. By comparison, Star Trek made $1,272,135 on the Monday after its fourth weekend. We're into the part of the summer where weekday numbers are elevated, so that'll help STiD's legs.
Click to expand...

That's a great hold and bodes pretty well for the weeks ahead. I think this is going to be one of those pics that just holds real well during the weekdays. Probably looking at $235 million.

Yancy
 
"The Man of Steel" will bump STID out of IMAX, and it will undoubtedly have a very good opening weekend, but the 40 reviews so far on Rotten Tomatoes have it at only 70% fresh. Even many of the fresh reviews are really lukewarm. Maybe MOS won't have very good legs. That will certainly help STID if fewer folks walk out of MOS this weekend saying, "Wow, that blew me away. I have to see it again," versus, "You know, STID was much better. I think I'll go see it one more time, instead."

My daughters and I are going to see STID again on Friday while the wife's out of town. They really want to go. No dragging. This is the first time I've never dragged a family member to a Trek movie. I even noticed my oldest downloaded the main theme to her iTunes. I'M SO FREAKING PROUD! Now, if I can just make them baseball fans.
 
I read a good article on Superman Returns that had my feelings summed up, I really wish they'd made a franchise out of that movie.
 
My sixteen-year old son and I are going Thursday morning to see Into Darkness. He wants to see it because all his friends say its good. :techman:
 
One thing that I liked about these new movies is the people and kids who may discover the original TV shows, TNG etc
 
Franklin said:
"The Man of Steel" will bump STID out of IMAX, and it will undoubtedly have a very good opening weekend, but the 40 reviews so far on Rotten Tomatoes have it at only 70% fresh. Even many of the fresh reviews are really lukewarm. Maybe MOS won't have very good legs. That will certainly help STID if fewer folks walk out of MOS this weekend saying, "Wow, that blew me away. I have to see it again," versus, "You know, STID was much better. I think I'll go see it one more time, instead."
Click to expand...

I think you're overly optimistic. MOS will, in my view, kill all the May movies. Trek will last for a while, but it's nearing its last days above 1 million. My opinion, of course.
 
Franklin said:
"The Man of Steel" will bump STID out of IMAX, and it will undoubtedly have a very good opening weekend, but the 40 reviews so far on Rotten Tomatoes have it at only 70% fresh. Even many of the fresh reviews are really lukewarm. Maybe MOS won't have very good legs. That will certainly help STID if fewer folks walk out of MOS this weekend saying, "Wow, that blew me away. I have to see it again," versus, "You know, STID was much better. I think I'll go see it one more time, instead."

My daughters and I are going to see STID again on Friday while the wife's out of town. They really want to go. No dragging. This is the first time I've never dragged a family member to a Trek movie. I even noticed my oldest downloaded the main theme to her iTunes. I'M SO FREAKING PROUD! Now, if I can just make them baseball fans.
Click to expand...
Baseballs going to die out in a few decades anyway. After Buck Bokai wins the Series.
 
LOKAI of CHERON said:
RAMA said:
LOKAI of CHERON said:
A low budget doesn't necessarily correlate to a "cheap" appearance on screen.
Click to expand...

Well..

I still think a lot of the "cheap" TV look from STVI is because it was filmed in Super 35.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
OK, you think it looks "cheap" because it was shot on Super 35 - I don't agree. All the movies I own shot on Super 35, including Titanic and Terminator 2, do not, IMHO, look any the worse for it either.

What is it about Super 35 that makes it look "cheap" for you?
Click to expand...

While this isn't a factor now, back then using Super 35 required you to go an extra generation optically, which made the picture grainier and more contrasty. If you plan it right it can look okay -- Cameron knew how to make it work, as you say.

But in the case of TUC's 70mm release on some screens, you're basically getting a third generation print, and a blowup ... which is why on some screens there was nothing but grain in the Kirk/McCoy bunkbed scene (for me it was like watching the movie at a drive-in with all the car headlights turned on.)

I don't see much of a problem with TUC on homevid, but I will grant that shooting anamorphic -- which is how the earlier films were lensed -- gets something unique in the image that shooting with spherical lenses does not deliver.
 
mos6507 said:
Phily B said:
One thing that I liked about these new movies is the people and kids who may discover the original TV shows, TNG etc
Click to expand...

And then realize how bad JJ Trek is in comparison.
Click to expand...

Umm, no. While you might wish this to happen, and it is certainly fine that you have this opinion of "JJ Trek" (as is your right), it is highly, highly unlikely that such a scenario would occur. If I were you, I wouldn't bet the college fund or the mortgage on it. ;)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top