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I'm guessing Lindelof is out for future sequels

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AbramsIsSatan

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From my guy connected in the biz:

At this point, it's hard to see anything being "Greenlit".

Star Trek Into Darkness is performing very poorly at the box office. It's $20 million under estimates this weekend and the numbers will continue to slip. It'll likely hit its budget of $190 million but I think the future will is murky. It's taken in less during its opening weekend than Star Trek in 2009. That is not a good sign.

Abrams has never been a Star Trek fan and he's off to the Star Wars universe, his true first love. Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof haven't shown that they can create blockbuster movies on their own and Lindelof's quickly developing a "Franchise Killer" rep around town. Paramount will likely look to a completely different team if the decide to move forward.

Paramount was really upset with Abrams and the four year lag between films and the box office disappointment with the sequel will likely give them pause when considering another director, writer and most importantly, budget, if they decide to move forward in the Star Trek universe.

Right now, I don't think that's a given. Studios don't usually make movies, especially big budget summer blockbusters, with the intent to "break even".

/first post
/Abrams hater
/don't shoot the messenger

I love Star Trek and hate what Lindelof/Abrams have done to it. I do like the casting job Abrams did, and thought 2009 Trek was pretty good, but this fell incredibly flat for me.
 
AbramsIsSatan probably isn't a good user name if you actually want to be taken seriously on these boards.
 
Additionally with international numbers this film looks to take in somewhere between $70-100 more than the previous entry. I really doubt Paramount is going to be too disappointed with the final tally.

Yancy
 
Not gonna shoot the messenger, but will certainly consider the source... :lol:

Here's a better source for you.

'Star Trek' can't hit warp speed at the box office

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/05/19/star-trek-into-darkness-box-office/2323033/

Star Trek Into Darkness set its box office phasers on stun, but managed only a glancing blow at theaters.

The sequel to the 2009 film did $70.6 million, according to studio estimates from Hollywood.com.

The J.J. Abrams film, which opened Thursday, has taken in $84 million in four days.

While the debut marked a decisive win at theaters, the opening fell short of forecasts, which projected a weekend haul of $90 million to $100 million. And despite solid reviews, the film opened slightly below 2009's reboot, which bowed to $75 million.

While the film, starring Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto, likely has plenty of momentum to recoup its $190 million budget, "it appears that four years of anticipation and help from 3-D ticket prices isn't really giving Into Darkness much of a boost," says Ray Subers of Box Office Mojo.

Subers says that the opening "would normally be cause for panic, though it's possible that most audiences just weren't aware that the movie was opening on Thursday," an 11th-hour change by Paramount Studios.

But analysts say the debut could signal a quick exit from theaters.

"Suddenly, there is now a good deal to worry about," says Tim Briody, analyst for Boxofficeprophets.com.

Briody notes that 2009's Star Trek earned $31 million on its opening Friday, compared to $22 million for Darkness.

"This is a problem," he says. "In this era where it simply makes sense for an A-list sequel to open higher than the previous entry, where two weeks ago Iron Man 3 improved nearly $50 million from Iron Man 2, we have the first high-profile tentpole to fall flat."

Still, no film came close to Darkness. Iron Man 3 took second place with $35.2 million, followed by The Great Gatsby with $23.4 million.

Michael Bay's Pain & Gain continues to linger in the top five, taking fourth place with $3.1 million, while the animated comedy The Croods did $2.8 million.

Final figures are due Monday.
 
"Final figures are due Monday". When domestic and foreign tallies come in, it'll be plain as day that STID will make more than the 2009 movie.

Plus, legs.
 
Again, internationally this film is going to do twice the business as Trek 2009, Paramount will be more than happy with these numbers.

Yancy
 
Well, I predicted it would make a profit. I don't know anything other than that. I wish it the best even though it wasn't my cup of tea.
 
From my guy connected in the biz:

At this point, it's hard to see anything being "Greenlit".

Star Trek Into Darkness is performing very poorly at the box office. It's $20 million under estimates this weekend and the numbers will continue to slip. It'll likely hit its budget of $190 million but I think the future will is murky. It's taken in less during its opening weekend than Star Trek in 2009. That is not a good sign.

Abrams has never been a Star Trek fan and he's off to the Star Wars universe, his true first love. Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof haven't shown that they can create blockbuster movies on their own and Lindelof's quickly developing a "Franchise Killer" rep around town. Paramount will likely look to a completely different team if the decide to move forward.

Paramount was really upset with Abrams and the four year lag between films and the box office disappointment with the sequel will likely give them pause when considering another director, writer and most importantly, budget, if they decide to move forward in the Star Trek universe.

Right now, I don't think that's a given. Studios don't usually make movies, especially big budget summer blockbusters, with the intent to "break even".

/first post
/Abrams hater
/don't shoot the messenger
No shooting messengers, please - I hate when that happens. That said, an anonymous message with no other apparent source than this very thread does leave itself open to question somewhat.
 
From my guy connected in the biz:

At this point, it's hard to see anything being "Greenlit".

Star Trek Into Darkness is performing very poorly at the box office. It's $20 million under estimates this weekend and the numbers will continue to slip. It'll likely hit its budget of $190 million but I think the future will is murky. It's taken in less during its opening weekend than Star Trek in 2009. That is not a good sign.

Abrams has never been a Star Trek fan and he's off to the Star Wars universe, his true first love. Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof haven't shown that they can create blockbuster movies on their own and Lindelof's quickly developing a "Franchise Killer" rep around town. Paramount will likely look to a completely different team if the decide to move forward.

Paramount was really upset with Abrams and the four year lag between films and the box office disappointment with the sequel will likely give them pause when considering another director, writer and most importantly, budget, if they decide to move forward in the Star Trek universe.

Right now, I don't think that's a given. Studios don't usually make movies, especially big budget summer blockbusters, with the intent to "break even".

/first post
/Abrams hater
/don't shoot the messenger
No shooting messengers, please - I hate when that happens. That said, an anonymous message with no other apparent source than this very thread does leave itself open to question somewhat.

Seeing as how his info matches up with USA Today, there's definitely something here.
 
We certainly know he's out for any future Prometheus sequels because everyone realized his script was an incredibly piece of turd. :lol:
 
The OP and the so called market expert he quotes knows nothing :rolleyes: STID is on course for a $450-$500 worldwide total. Star Trek will return with a 3rd movie NO DOUBT.
 
ST will easily do more than US$190m, By the time the opening weekend from the US and Canada is added to the rest of the world. It'll be about US$150m total thus far. It'll have to drop like a bomb to not make it past US$190m.

Remember whilst the US and Canda takings are important, surely Paramount will look at the final worldwide total. Before making make any decisions on any further films.

The International box office is becomming more and more important for studios.
 
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AbramsIsSatan

From my guy connected in the biz

I'm surprised this topic hasn't been closed. You're just trolling and trying to scare people, I've outlined in the other thread why there will be a sequel unless the foreign BO goes to shit for no reason - like the domestic did - which is unlikely. It's on course to make its budget back, which is better than the last Abrams/Orci/Lindelof franchise did for Paramount with MI3. MI4 had a smaller budget of course, but did better and imo was a much better movie, I certainly didn't feel like a budget had gone. Trek has the advantage of not having cruise taking 20 percent of the take too!

May is a crowded month, and the GA rarely spends its money on more than 2 movies a month, let alone the 4 or 5. I think Hangover 3 will underwhelm too because of this.
 
The OP and the so called market expert he quotes knows nothing :rolleyes: STID is on course for a $450-$500 worldwide total. Star Trek will return with a 3rd movie NO DOUBT.

There's no question there will be more Star Trek movies.

Will Abrams and/or Lindelof be attached?

I doubt it.

Lindelof has already been kicked off the Alien franchise reboot, despite Prometheus making over $400 million worldwide.
 
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