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STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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I too saw it more than once in the theater, and about a trillion and a half times on cable. I loved it.

Then again, I also liked Megaforce. I was even stupider as a child than I am today.
 
It is if you want sequels.

Some of us fans may want that. If JJ Trek fails early, it will mean no Star Trek for awhile. But eventually the studio will try again, cause it makes them money. And hopfully they will see Star Trek's original formula has more staying power than JJ Trek and go back to it.

How's that workin' out for 'Flash Gordon' and 'Buck Rogers'?

Who cares? I'm not seeing umpty-um posters daily on a gordonbbs or rogersbbs site, but there are all these folk who are here (and most were here pre-Abrams, even during that period when everybody thought all ModernTrek was crashingNburning) because of the Trek that went before, talking about it years and decades after the fact.

Not just talking apples & oranges here ... talking the difference between fresh fruit and freeze-dried soylent.
 
Hollywood Reporter review by Todd McCarthy (BEWARE: VERY, VERY FULL OF SPOILERS):
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie/star-trek-darkness/review/451154?utm_source=feedly


Only these links? You ought to take the word negative out of your google search.

Why not post a link to Variety's review, or the other 15 that read just like it?
 
Note this: the guys who hated it were the fanboys who expected JJ not to do the Khan story and are really pissed off that Khan is in the film.

JJ needs to make money for Paramount or Star Trek dies.

Screw the fanboys.
 
How's that workin' out for 'Flash Gordon' and 'Buck Rogers'?

I don't remember how many times I saw the 80's Flash Gordon film as a kid. But I was surprised there wasn't a sequel.

Only saw the 80's Buck Rogers on TV. I would be interested in a new series for TV.
I have the Flash Gordon DVD. I would love if they do a reboot of Buck Rogers.
 
Any explanation in the film why Khan is suddenly a pale Brit with a low voice?

It's been done.

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Any explanation in the film why Khan is suddenly a pale Brit with a low voice?

Was there an explanation of why Ricardo Montalban's skin was so pale in ST II?

Harrison is based in London. I've just been there. Rarely saw the sun!

Being based in London, you'll eventually pick up an English accent. Not that he emphasizes it in STiD.
 
yeah, but Indians who live in the UK all their lives don't all of a sudden turn as pale as Benedict Cumberbatch! Unless they develop vitiligo... now, there's a thought. Just sayin' :lol:

But, yeah, Meyers never gave a reason why Khan was all of a sudden pale and blonde in TWOK when he was neither in Space Seed.
 
Hollywood Reporter review by Todd McCarthy (BEWARE: VERY, VERY FULL OF SPOILERS):
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie/star-trek-darkness/review/451154?utm_source=feedly


Only these links? You ought to take the word negative out of your google search.

Why not post a link to Variety's review, or the other 15 that read just like it?

Didn't know "Variety's" review was out. Just read it. Wow. That's what I like to read.

Here's the link, by the way: http://variety.com/2013/film/review...ness-review-1200442461/#!1/startrek_benedict/

I posted the links to the negative reviews because they are so utterly and completely negative that they stand out as odd. I certainly don't agree with them at all, and as reviews of movies go, they have the "I don't like it because it's not the movie I wanted Abrams to make" stink to them.

Some of the best bits from those three reviews mashed together: The action sequences aren't really any good. Really? The 3D sets back the technology. Really? The movie disgraces the franchise. Really? It's mostly the retelling of "Nemesis". What? Cumberbatch is monotonic and wasted in the movie. Really? Kirk is too young to have a meaningful life-changing conflict with Khan, yet. Really?

To me, few things are more fun to read than really bad bad reviews.
 
The bad reviews do appear to be by people who are really pissed off that this Abrams trek is not the Star Trek they want to see. So they nitpick the movie to death and then proceed to tell us what they think a Star Trek movie should be. They need to get over it and accept that it is possible a new producer can come into the franchise and put their own spin on things and unfortunately for them it may not conform to their personal preference.

Maybe the next producer that comes in will make a trek movie they like?

James Bond movies were in this thread earlier. Those movies have seen similar changes as the actor changes and the producers change etc. the difference from Connery to Moore to Brosnan to Craig.... Not everyone will be happy with each iteration and everyone has a preference. You can't please everyone!
 
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