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ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

^Both got a 4,5 out of 5 rating. Here's what Blu-Ray.com had to say about the picture and sound quality. You can find the entire review here.

Enterprise: Season One doesn't fare nearly as well as its original series and Next Generation Blu-ray counterparts, a shame considering it's by far the newest program. Presented in its original 1.78:1 aspect ratio, the image fluctuates between looking presentable and appearing downright sloppy, finding a middle ground that only slightly favors the positive side of the ledger. Generally, it's a decent enough image, though certainly not at all what Trek fans want. Details are often muddy and flat. The image takes on a fairly smooth and sometimes overly soft appearance, leaving faces without much in the way of real, tangible texturing, whether human or bumpy alien. It's quite noisy in places, and grain fluctuates from spiky to practically nonexistent. Black levels can be pale, and flesh tones somewhat uneven. Colors are largely dull. Andorian baby blue skin lacks brilliance and the navy blue crew uniforms are bland. The cold, metallic feel of the ship's interior looks as it should, but even the nearly constant flat backgrounds can't accentuate many of the splashes of color in the show. The scene in Brazil in Broken Bow does offer some nicely brilliant greens, and certainly some scattered traces of good, honest colors are seen throughout, but mostly this is a very uninspired palette. The image does seem to tighten up, even if it's only ever-so-slightly, as the season moves along. By the time it reaches Shockwave, Part 1, viewers will see more stabilized and filmic details but still catch remnants -- and often more -- of the problems plaguing the entire season run. The special effects remain presented in standard definition; they shimmer, take on jagged edges, and lack crisp details. Hopefully, a remastered set with HD visual effects and a more consistent presentation will one day materialize.

Enterprise: Season One's audio presentation fares better than its video counterpart, but not by significant leaps and bounds. This is a workmanlike multichannel lossless presentation that handles some elements well, some questionably, but none terribly. The controversial theme song has never sounded better. It's rich, full of life, and with well-defined vocals and precise instrument clarity and reproduction. Much of the action on board the NX-01 is brought to life by the subtle, deep hum of the engines and the little odds and ends sound elements that define the atmosphere. The track creates a big, believable stage that places the listener on the bridge, down in the engine room, in the mess, or in captain's quarters with ease. It's never quite so authentic as similar ambient effects heard in The Next Generation's Blu-ray release, but there's little room for complaint. Action effects are a little more hit-or-miss. Some of the fisticuffs and crashing debris during the initial struggle between the crew and the Andorians in The Andorian Incident come across as somewhat muffled, but some of the phaser fire scattered throughout the season streaks through the soundstage with a force and sense of faultless movement that listeners might want to duck for cover. Some of the explosions lack punch, some are suitably potent. Dialogue is steady and even, playing smoothly from the center. This isn't a great track, but neither is it in any way a bad one. It gets the job done with occasional flair and suitable stability

It sounds like the Blu Ray is only a marginal bump in quality compared to the DVDs. :(
 
^Both got a 4,5 out of 5 rating. Here's what Blu-Ray.com had to say about the picture and sound quality. You can find the entire review here.

Enterprise: Season One doesn't fare nearly as well as its original series and Next Generation Blu-ray counterparts, a shame considering it's by far the newest program. Presented in its original 1.78:1 aspect ratio, the image fluctuates between looking presentable and appearing downright sloppy, finding a middle ground that only slightly favors the positive side of the ledger. Generally, it's a decent enough image, though certainly not at all what Trek fans want. Details are often muddy and flat. The image takes on a fairly smooth and sometimes overly soft appearance, leaving faces without much in the way of real, tangible texturing, whether human or bumpy alien. It's quite noisy in places, and grain fluctuates from spiky to practically nonexistent. Black levels can be pale, and flesh tones somewhat uneven. Colors are largely dull. Andorian baby blue skin lacks brilliance and the navy blue crew uniforms are bland. The cold, metallic feel of the ship's interior looks as it should, but even the nearly constant flat backgrounds can't accentuate many of the splashes of color in the show. The scene in Brazil in Broken Bow does offer some nicely brilliant greens, and certainly some scattered traces of good, honest colors are seen throughout, but mostly this is a very uninspired palette. The image does seem to tighten up, even if it's only ever-so-slightly, as the season moves along. By the time it reaches Shockwave, Part 1, viewers will see more stabilized and filmic details but still catch remnants -- and often more -- of the problems plaguing the entire season run. The special effects remain presented in standard definition; they shimmer, take on jagged edges, and lack crisp details. Hopefully, a remastered set with HD visual effects and a more consistent presentation will one day materialize.

Enterprise: Season One's audio presentation fares better than its video counterpart, but not by significant leaps and bounds. This is a workmanlike multichannel lossless presentation that handles some elements well, some questionably, but none terribly. The controversial theme song has never sounded better. It's rich, full of life, and with well-defined vocals and precise instrument clarity and reproduction. Much of the action on board the NX-01 is brought to life by the subtle, deep hum of the engines and the little odds and ends sound elements that define the atmosphere. The track creates a big, believable stage that places the listener on the bridge, down in the engine room, in the mess, or in captain's quarters with ease. It's never quite so authentic as similar ambient effects heard in The Next Generation's Blu-ray release, but there's little room for complaint. Action effects are a little more hit-or-miss. Some of the fisticuffs and crashing debris during the initial struggle between the crew and the Andorians in The Andorian Incident come across as somewhat muffled, but some of the phaser fire scattered throughout the season streaks through the soundstage with a force and sense of faultless movement that listeners might want to duck for cover. Some of the explosions lack punch, some are suitably potent. Dialogue is steady and even, playing smoothly from the center. This isn't a great track, but neither is it in any way a bad one. It gets the job done with occasional flair and suitable stability

It sounds like the Blu Ray is only a marginal bump in quality compared to the DVDs. :(
This is pretty much EXACTLY what I expected based on my initial impressions of the promo material released thus far. As I stated up-thread, I'll wait for my own discs to make a definitive judgement - but it's not looking good. This is just my opinion you understand - I'm not knocking the show itself, I'm a big fan in actuality, but I was certainly hoping for more with this set.
 
People really need to separate the ENT set from the TNG sets - aside from the masterful bonus features, the picture quality is a completely different beast since it didn't go through the remastering process that TNG has received. Reviewing one against the other isn't really applicable, sadly.
 
That's why I posted a bit ago that I was hoping after DS9 and VOY are remastered as TNG is now (and you know they will), ENT will be done in the same fashion.
 
People really need to separate the ENT set from the TNG sets - aside from the masterful bonus features, the picture quality is a completely different beast since it didn't go through the remastering process that TNG has received. Reviewing one against the other isn't really applicable, sadly.
But the comparisons are unavoidable I'm afraid. Professional reviewers will most certainly make them. As I've already stated, for me, and I suspect many others, it's the end product and how it appears on screen that really matters.

I don't ask this in a nasty or haughty way, but how do you suggest the discs are reviewed? Should we give 5 star marks for PQ, and post a small disclaimer stating inferior processes were employed in production - essentially, stating they're brilliant within the context of the inferior process?
 
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People really need to separate the ENT set from the TNG sets - aside from the masterful bonus features, the picture quality is a completely different beast since it didn't go through the remastering process that TNG has received. Reviewing one against the other isn't really applicable, sadly.

Maybe they should have compared the ENT sets to TOS sets?:confused:
 
Good Digital Bits review:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/item/star-trek-enterprise-season-1



Wait. They wanted to use U2's "Beautiful Day" as the theme song? Didn't know that. It was massive and everywhere at the time.

Another example of the slightly schizophrenic nature of Enterprise. You shake it up by going for a title sequence with a pop song... like CSI, like Scrubs, like *ugh* Dawson's Creek. But they don't follow through with that thinking (for better or worse), by making the whole soundtrack unlike any Star Trek that came before. Instead one foot is kept in the past, by still very much sticking with the house-style of full orchestral playing future classical, that had remained since TNG quit experimenting with electronic.

Having said that, every so often that one episode really does stands out, or there's a punch the air moment which helps the story be memorable. Even Con Air spoof "Canamar" has that. Although it's debatable whether it deserves to sound quite that epic!
 
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I'm just watching "Silent Enemy" right now. It looks like CBS did some digital altering of the color compared to the DVD picture just to make it look better, but it's nothing like color change that was done for TOS or TNG---it doesn't give it that "WOW" feeling (and for the shot of the ship at warp, just after Hoshi and Reed share dinner together it looked like for a minute it went to black and white).

But if you look at 27:23 on both the Blu-Ray and DVD, you can see that the shot is reframed for the Blu-Ray for some reason. Aside from shifting the picture over to center it, it really doesn't add to the image (infact it displays more of the graphic on the back wall, that fades into black because of how the lighting was done).

And the CGI creatures in this episode just do not stand up well, they look like some horrible 1950's Sci-Fi alien made out of clay, or something that should be in a Nintendo 64 game.
 
I grant that some FX will not look pristine but I'm still looking over comparison images and the bluray shots are ALL superior, even with minor aliasing. No one has any reason to complain.

RAMA
 
I grant that some FX will not look pristine but I'm still looking over comparison images and the bluray shots are ALL superior, even with minor aliasing. No one has any reason to complain.
Reporting the HD image quality is softer and more inconsistent than other Star Trek, and indeed, comparable Blu-ray TV releases is merely a statement of the facts - no more, no less.
 
Blu-Ray.com said the VFX were presented in SD, but weren't the original effects rendered at 720 and not 480? That would make them HD, even though they're upconverted from there.
 
I was very happy when I heard that the fx for Enterprise would not be recreated the way they were in TNG, but what I hear and see now makes me less enthusiastic about it. Especially the color "corrections" ... I'm seriously thinking about cancelling my order ... :confused:
 
I was very happy when I heard that the fx for Enterprise would not be recreated the way they were in TNG, but what I hear and see now makes me less enthusiastic about it. Especially the color "corrections" ... I'm seriously thinking about cancelling my order ... :confused:

After watching the live video on the Blu-rays, the color correction is much less noticeable than in the screencaps; I was just as worried but am satisfied with the final look.
 
I grant that some FX will not look pristine but I'm still looking over comparison images and the bluray shots are ALL superior, even with minor aliasing. No one has any reason to complain.
Reporting the HD image quality is softer and more inconsistent than other Star Trek, and indeed, comparable Blu-ray TV releases is merely a statement of the facts - no more, no less.


Compared to the other remasters, much of it yes. But compare color, detail, contrast, the bluray is noticeably better than the DVD.

RAMA
 
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