College: Gender Studies (Feminism Discussion)
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Good for you, really. I think this is a field that can be very stimulating intellectually because it challenges common assumptions about societal roles most of us have grown up with. There's also some bullshit and nonsense but that's the case with every academic field. The most important thing to learn in academics is to be discerning and determining the merit of any theory or argument you're being presented with.
As others have said it's never wrong to learn new things and personally, I'm very much in favour of pursueing academic studies for their own merit and not neccessarily as a career thing.
I suspect a degree in Gender Studies isn't that useful in that regard but others have made good points about how you might be able to make it useful. It's certainly possible to carve out a niche for your set of qualifications.
Good for you, really. I think this is a field that can be very stimulating intellectually because it challenges common assumptions about societal roles most of us have grown up with. There's also some bullshit and nonsense but that's the case with every academic field. The most important thing to learn in academics is to be discerning and determining the merit of any theory or argument you're being presented with.
As others have said it's never wrong to learn new things and personally, I'm very much in favour of pursueing academic studies for their own merit and not neccessarily as a career thing.
I suspect a degree in Gender Studies isn't that useful in that regard but others have made good points about how you might be able to make it useful. It's certainly possible to carve out a niche for your set of qualifications.
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Just for you, an article by the founder of the world's first battered womens' shelter.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for-men/from-avfm-editor-at-large-erin-pizzey/
She, I'm sure, is a misogynist too
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Just for you, an article by the founder of the world's first battered womens' shelter.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for-men/from-avfm-editor-at-large-erin-pizzey/
She, I'm sure, is a misogynist too
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Not a misogynist, but clearly too steeped in fervent anti-communist rhetoric to think straight.
And linking to A Voice for Men? Are you fucking serious, dude?
Look, I know you've got your issues, and I don't think you're a bad guy, but maybe you should just cut your losses and back out of this thread before you make yourself look any more foolish. You're pushing some really hateful misogynist dogma here. I don't know why. I don't know how you got sucked into the MRA Zone. I figured you'd be too smart for that claptrap. However it happened, you might want to take some time to think about what you're saying, how it comes off, and why it's received such a hostile reaction here. Hint: it's not because we've all been bought off by the "feminist conspiracy."
Just for you, an article by the founder of the world's first battered womens' shelter.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for-men/from-avfm-editor-at-large-erin-pizzey/
She, I'm sure, is a misogynist too
Not a misogynist, but clearly too steeped in fervent anti-communist rhetoric to think straight.
And linking to A Voice for Men? Are you fucking serious, dude?
Look, I know you've got your issues, and I don't think you're a bad guy, but maybe you should just cut your losses and back out of this thread before you make yourself look any more foolish. You're pushing some really hateful misogynist dogma here. I don't know why. I don't know how you got sucked into the MRA Zone. I figured you'd be too smart for that claptrap. However it happened, you might want to take some time to think about what you're saying, how it comes off, and why it's received such a hostile reaction here. Hint: it's not because we've all been bought off by the "feminist conspiracy."
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I'm certain anyone reading this can see which of us is the hateful one, feminist.
Sincerely,
"a whiny little misogynist douchebag".
I'm certain anyone reading this can see which of us is the hateful one, feminist.
Sincerely,
"a whiny little misogynist douchebag".
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I can't think of much else to say at this point. Good luck with... whatever it is.
I can't think of much else to say at this point. Good luck with... whatever it is.
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I fail to see how any of this is helping the original poster in any way. The poster asked a question. A few people answered it. The rest of this bullshit is completely irrelevant to hxclespaulplayer's question, so maybe we should just close this thread and take this crap to TNZ where it belongs.
Jesus Christ on a Pony.
I fail to see how any of this is helping the original poster in any way. The poster asked a question. A few people answered it. The rest of this bullshit is completely irrelevant to hxclespaulplayer's question, so maybe we should just close this thread and take this crap to TNZ where it belongs.
Jesus Christ on a Pony.
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Eh, we don't really see any blatant misogyny in TNZ, you know. Misc is a much worse offender there.
Eh, we don't really see any blatant misogyny in TNZ, you know. Misc is a much worse offender there.
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Ah. I wouldn't know. I don't go in there. But my point stands. The question was asked and answered, despite all the bullshit. Perhaps we can just close and bury (and salt and burn) this thread?
Ah. I wouldn't know. I don't go in there. But my point stands. The question was asked and answered, despite all the bullshit. Perhaps we can just close and bury (and salt and burn) this thread?
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To the OP:
This degree will help you immensely if you plan to pursue psychology or social work. Other than that I have to agree with this:
Deranged Nasat, I have read your posts with interest in the past. They have always been well reasoned and well thought out. I have liked the persona you presented in the past. With this one thread you have totally destroyed all of the respect and good will I used to have for you. This is very, very sad.
To the OP:
This degree will help you immensely if you plan to pursue psychology or social work. Other than that I have to agree with this:
Deranged Nasat, I have read your posts with interest in the past. They have always been well reasoned and well thought out. I have liked the persona you presented in the past. With this one thread you have totally destroyed all of the respect and good will I used to have for you. This is very, very sad.
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I'm afraid that's pretty much how I see it, too. The complete lack of perspective and the incredibly warped view on reality is shocking. It's like the people who look into conspiracy theories, get lost in them and then completely lose their sense of reality.
Or people who have serious issues, feel terrible and then start hating and blaming others to feel better. It's sad.
And if they're too far gone it doesn't matter what you tell them. Telling them they're wrong will just reinforce their weird views because they believe in some crazy "mainstream indoctrination" nonsense.
I'm afraid that's pretty much how I see it, too. The complete lack of perspective and the incredibly warped view on reality is shocking. It's like the people who look into conspiracy theories, get lost in them and then completely lose their sense of reality.
Or people who have serious issues, feel terrible and then start hating and blaming others to feel better. It's sad.
And if they're too far gone it doesn't matter what you tell them. Telling them they're wrong will just reinforce their weird views because they believe in some crazy "mainstream indoctrination" nonsense.
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Yeah, but for the original poster, I'm all for studying what is interesting to you more than for job potential. That should be with the caveat that you can afford such freewheeling study. If the study is going to put you in a deep valley of debt, then being able to get gainful employment should play some measure in choosing what you will study. All the same, it's a shame to be at school choosing courses more or less only from utilitarian perspectives. So, that was just a meandering way to say 'it all depends.'
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I'm completely shocked at this as well. I would like to think that maybe DN is just having a lashing out on a bad day but he's obviously pretty steeped in the hate sites. I'm at a complete loss for how to somehow fix my previously high opinion of him which is now in the gutter.
DN I've thought we've often been friendly with each other and I've always liked you. But all these hateful links, your use of the word 'feminist' as an insult, your anger and disdain towards women who espouse a position you despise.. that is all about me. That's me you view as some kind of enemy. Me and probably women in your own family, women you've been friends with or worked with IRL, women you've been talking to on this forum for years. It's not some nasty insidious faction of jackboot gender thugs, a THEM out to make your life hell, it is US people already in your life to one degree or another. And you're going to have a lot of hurt feelings because you've stepped outside of that and made us all the enemy.
I hope to god you don't talk like this IRL. I can't imagine how you'd get along with family or make real friends, which seems to be something you've wanted. Angry men on the internet are not a good substitute.
I'm completely shocked at this as well. I would like to think that maybe DN is just having a lashing out on a bad day but he's obviously pretty steeped in the hate sites. I'm at a complete loss for how to somehow fix my previously high opinion of him which is now in the gutter.
DN I've thought we've often been friendly with each other and I've always liked you. But all these hateful links, your use of the word 'feminist' as an insult, your anger and disdain towards women who espouse a position you despise.. that is all about me. That's me you view as some kind of enemy. Me and probably women in your own family, women you've been friends with or worked with IRL, women you've been talking to on this forum for years. It's not some nasty insidious faction of jackboot gender thugs, a THEM out to make your life hell, it is US people already in your life to one degree or another. And you're going to have a lot of hurt feelings because you've stepped outside of that and made us all the enemy.
I hope to god you don't talk like this IRL. I can't imagine how you'd get along with family or make real friends, which seems to be something you've wanted. Angry men on the internet are not a good substitute.
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I've always liked Deranged Nasat but linking to such an awful site as that voice for men one has really made my opinion of him plummet, I'm afraid. I couldn't believe the hate I was seeing on that site.
I've always liked Deranged Nasat but linking to such an awful site as that voice for men one has really made my opinion of him plummet, I'm afraid. I couldn't believe the hate I was seeing on that site.
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My god.. you should (or maybe shouldn't) read the article on that site about how men are abused by the feminist agenda in India because the Indian government isn't concerned about men being raped by women.
My god.. you should (or maybe shouldn't) read the article on that site about how men are abused by the feminist agenda in India because the Indian government isn't concerned about men being raped by women.
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It's currently being discussed in the BR (just waiting for the other mods to check in), so I'll let you know if a decision if made regarding an infraction.
I understand that you were provoked and that the rhetoric was extremely insulting and hateful, but let's please not resort to flaming anyone. Thanks.
That goes for everyone.
It's currently being discussed in the BR (just waiting for the other mods to check in), so I'll let you know if a decision if made regarding an infraction.
I understand that you were provoked and that the rhetoric was extremely insulting and hateful, but let's please not resort to flaming anyone. Thanks.
That goes for everyone.
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