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Abrams: Expect To Cry

Using your logic, we can't care about any original movie character (any original character in any original movie) simply because that the character is not someone we already know or have cared about before the movie.

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Well, the first ten minutes of Trek 09 were very emotional. I didn't shed a tear, but the sheer brutality of the attack and the echoey near-silence of Kirk's birth combined with Giacchino's score was very moving. I also got a little choked up during the shuttle sequence when the new Enterprise was revealed. It was treated with such adoration and respect that it felt a little like coming home again.

Speaking of Giacchino, he can really bring the tears when the situation requires. The first eight minutes of Up are virtually unwatchable for me. I get emotional even thinking of them and the music was a big part of that. Given the right material to work with, he might be enough to push me over the edge. We'll see.

Of course, I also cried at the end of 'Armageddon,' so what the hell do I know? :p "Harry, no!"
 
I don't know about anybody else, but I was stirred by the 'signing off' at the end of The Undiscovered Country. :(

I'm a big boohooer, but originally on seeing TWOK, I held on until Kirk got that hitch in his throat...then it was all over.

When Radiated Spock gave Kirk the "V" sign some heartless bastard next to me whispered "Live Long and Phospher," and I laughed my ass off.
 
Can someone provide me with the super long 10 minute trailer I watched in IMAX? I was like:wtf: 'are they gonna run the whole movie on that trailer'.:rommie:
 
Yeah, but we know that Kirk and Spock etc are running around doing just fine in the Prime Universe, so I give as much of a shit about these new guys as I do that Riker who got blown up in that Borg war universe in Parallels

Using your logic, we can't care about any original movie character (any original character in any original movie) simply because that the character is not someone we already know or have cared about before the movie.

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Can someone provide me with the super long 10 minute trailer I watched in IMAX? I was like:wtf: 'are they gonna run the whole movie on that trailer'.:rommie:
No, that one was intended only for theatre viewing. There was a poor-quality phone-cam recording of it making the rounds, but that's probably the only general release the nine-minute trailer will ever see.
 
Using your logic, we can't care about any original movie character (any original character in any original movie) simply because that the character is not someone we already know or have cared about before the movie.

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Explain to me how, when watching the original Star Wars for the first time, people cared about what happened to Luke, Leia, and Han, even though they knew nothing about those characters when the movie started.

If we imagine for a moment that ST2009 was the first Star Trek story ever, would you not care about the Kirk, Spock, et al. portrayed in the film? I do understand the reality of it is that ST2009 was NOT the first-ever Star Trek story. However, from the standpoint of a pure-cinematic story-telling potential, why would it matter if the characters in ST2009 are not original? How does that affect the film's ability to make you care about the characters?

Is it soley because Abrams and Co. said the original characters still exist in the prime universe? If so, I don't understand why that matters, considering that those prime universe characters are just as fictional as the Abrams-verse characters. The Abrams-verse fictional characters have every right to be "cared about" by the audience, from a story-telling standpoint (whether people personally thought Abrams and the writers succeeded in that is a totally different argument -- but I cared about them).

...and, by the way, when I watch TNG: Parallels, and I really think about it and get myself into the story, I do feel a bit bad for "Shabby Riker" who got "blowed up" (blowed up real good). Poor guy.
 
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Can someone provide me with the super long 10 minute trailer I watched in IMAX? I was like:wtf: 'are they gonna run the whole movie on that trailer'.:rommie:
No, that one was intended only for theatre viewing. There was a poor-quality phone-cam recording of it making the rounds, but that's probably the only general release the nine-minute trailer will ever see.

Until the Blu-ray is released somewhere around Christmas.
 
Explain to me how, when watching the original Star Wars for the first time, people cared about what happened to Luke, Leia, and Han, even though they knew nothing about those characters when the movie started.

Right. We knew nothing about them. So watching them grow was fun and surprising.

We do, however, already know all about Spock, Kirk, McCoy etc after having seen and read countless stories featuring those guys. Now we get to see how they became those characters only they aren't those characters, they're alternate universe versions. It's like rebooting Spider-Man with Ben Reilly.

If we imagine for a moment that ST2009 was the first Star Trek story ever, would you not care about the Kirk, Spock, et al. portrayed in the film?
Same film, but Star Trek had never existed and this was a new franchise? Would I care about them then? Possibly. But no more so than any other action movie franchise character and I can't say I'm in any hurry to read a novel featuring say, Jack Traven from Speed or something...

..and, by the way, when I watch TNG: Parallels, and I really think about it and get myself into the story, I do feel a bit bad for "Shabby Riker" who got "blowed up". Poor guy.
Good for you.
 
Yeah, but we know that Kirk and Spock etc are running around doing just fine in the Prime Universe...

No, they're not.

They got old, fat, and dull. Stuffy and boring. Kirk fell off a rickety bridge before delivering one of his bizarre line readings ("It was...fun") and croaking. Spock was last seen shuffling through a kind of aimless story about Romulus with a bunch of old guys and Denise Crosby wearing bumpy foam rubber heads. McCoy was wearing a garotte-like ascot for vanity's sake to hide his wattle, Scotty and Uhura were fumbling around with various unappealing menepausal sexual hijinks, Chekov had evolved from Bad Accent/Haircut to Bad Accent/Toupee and Sulu...who gives a fuck about Sulu?

They're not "running around," "doing fine," or being at all interesting. These new guys are a lot more fun now. :)
 
...and, by the way, when I watch TNG: Parallels, and I really think about it and get myself into the story, I do feel a bit bad for "Shabby Riker" who got "blowed up" (blowed up real good). Poor guy.

I'm not a Riker or TNG fan, but even I felt sorry for Shabby Riker :) What's that word I'm looking for? Ummm...empathy. That's it.
 
Despite what they say about the "message" of Roddenberry's optimism being in this film, I don't get the vibe the story ends well.

Yeah, I get the impression we're in for a cliffhanger ending.

I had that feeling too, back in September.

Someone (I think it was Pine) said a while ago in an interview that had no idea how Star Trek was supposed to continue after the end of STID, or at least it was something to that effect. But he said he was sure that the writers would think of something.

I can't find that snippet anymore, it was over on Trekweb months ago ... does anyone remember?

I think it was the infamous interview which spawned the 'last ST movie for Quinto?' rumor. It is below but the full transcript is absent on that page, video only.

http://trekmovie.com/2012/09/07/chr...ening-quinto-says-movie-is-bigger-and-bolder/

Notice the URL for that page has "chris-pine-says-star-trek-sequel-is-" blah blah blah within it but it is Quinto speaking.

I believe the lines we're thinking of is; Quinto: "I'm really excited to see what they do with it but, you know...."


On topic, Thanks for the warning JJ. I'll be sure to bring plenty of tissues with me.
 
I teared up when Spock died at the end of TWOK.

I teared up again when the Enterprise self-destructed in TSFS.

I STILL get tears (of joy) to this day at the last 5 minutes of TVH (The Enterprise-A reveal, but also Sarek's talk with Spock in the Council chamber).

I'm sorry, I just can't imagine anything in Into Darkness affecting me that profoundly.
 
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