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World War Z officially a train wreck

Can't say the trailer got me especially excited. I can understand them deviating from the book but this looks pretty standard fare.
 
Nope.

No interest once the comically CGI zombies show up. Until then it at least looked like a decent Apocalypse flick.
 
However, I feel the portrayal of them in the Walking Dead is the best presentation of them that I have seen.

Right here IMO is what World War Z is competing against and ironically a television show likely with 1/100th the budget Z has. No matter what they do - this film will be compared with the Walking Dead.

I'm going to see Z regardless and try not to make comparisons with the Walking Dead.
 
I must admit I much prefer the Walking Dead type Zombies. It's too bad we aren't getting the same in this movie.
 
I must admit I much prefer the Walking Dead type Zombies. It's too bad we aren't getting the same in this movie.

While I agree if the zombies end up moving like Flash Gordon it makes our suspension of disbelief much harder I still contend that the Walking Dead type zombies also for me make it hard to believe were able to overtake the vast majority of the US population including our military and that there are an estimated 310 million guns owned by private citizens in the US who also could have easily defended themselves against slow moving zombies.
 
^In a society that is familiar with zombies, maybe. But most zombie fiction precludes that zombies are a new and unfamiliar menace. It's tough to "kill" someone you know just because they are walking toward you, doubly so when it requires a head shot. Now add in the panic once it reaches critical mass and the hesitance by a government to fire on it's own people....

The US's freedoms actually make it more susceptible than many other countries.

The same can be said for pretty much any virus like outbreak.
 
^In a society that is familiar with zombies, maybe. But most zombie fiction precludes that zombies are a new and unfamiliar menace. It's tough to "kill" someone you know just because they are walking toward you, doubly so when it requires a head shot. Now add in the panic once it reaches critical mass and the hesitance by a government to fire on it's own people....

The US's freedoms actually make it more susceptible than many other countries.

The same can be said for pretty much any virus like outbreak.

You could be right however, once it became clear to the government that the dead were a menace I'd think that the government would act swiftly to quarantine the problem. They still are slow moving zombies and I'd hope pose no threat to even one battalion of the US army.

Shit, I'd think using our entire force of drones could fix much of the problem by itself.
 
Meh. Looks like just another generic disaster movie to me. Don't care for the swarm zombie behavior.
 
You could be right however, once it became clear to the government that the dead were a menace I'd think that the government would act swiftly to quarantine the problem. They still are slow moving zombies and I'd hope pose no threat to even one battalion of the US army.

The problem was one of the zombies numbers and their relentless nature demanding adaptability and completely new tactics which took a while to implement, not one of speed. If you kill a hundred zombies, a thousand more were right behind them and kept coming until you ran out of ammo, resolve, or room to retreat. If you napalmed a zombie horde, all that got you was a bunch of flaming zombies still coming toward you. If you blew them in half, the half connected to their heads would still keep on coming.

Making them a Zombie Tsunami because you think that's more frightening --instead of just looking ridiculous-- completely misses the point of the book.
 
You could be right however, once it became clear to the government that the dead were a menace I'd think that the government would act swiftly to quarantine the problem. They still are slow moving zombies and I'd hope pose no threat to even one battalion of the US army.

Shit, I'd think using our entire force of drones could fix much of the problem by itself.

That would depend a lot on how it got started. a single out break in a small town? New York? multiple out breaks across the world? Read WWZ it does a pretty good job of showing why a zombie out break could be devastating.
 
I haven't read WWZ (yet, at least), but in The Walking Dead I assumed that it all came on so suddenly that by the time people realized what was going on there were already to many zombies to be able to stop the outbreak.
 
That would depend a lot on how it got started. a single out break in a small town? New York? multiple out breaks across the world? Read WWZ it does a pretty good job of showing why a zombie out break could be devastating.

I defiantly want to read the book and plan on buying it this weekend. According to the summary in the Zombie Wiki, the World War Z plague started in China and spread quickly due to illegal organ donor trade. Since that trade is illegal in the US and It seems very unlikely that any physician here would implant illegal organs to even a handful of US citizens - how did it spread here and for that matter Western Europe?

But lets assume for a moment that a small number of illegal organs made it into the US/Western Europe and a few physicians iimplanted them into the very rich - the only plausible way for the plague to spread quickly would be fast zombies not slow ones. Is my logic correct?
 
I think it was actually explained that China did a mass coverup of the infection, so that none of the other countries were prepared for it once refugees started pouring into west carrying the infection. It was suggested that some people who'd been infected got onto airline flights and brought it to the US. Which would indicate that the virus took a day or two to kill its host.
 
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That would depend a lot on how it got started. a single out break in a small town? New York? multiple out breaks across the world? Read WWZ it does a pretty good job of showing why a zombie out break could be devastating.

I defiantly want to read the book and plan on buying it this weekend. According to the summary in the Zombie Wiki, the World War Z plague started in China and spread quickly due to illegal organ donor trade. Since that trade is illegal in the US and It seems very unlikely that any physician here would implant illegal organs to even a handful of US citizens - how did it spread here and for that matter Western Europe?

But lets assume for a moment that a small number of illegal organs made it into the US/Western Europe and a few physicians iimplanted them into the very rich - the only plausible way for the plague to spread quickly would be fast zombies not slow ones. Is my logic correct?
You're thnking like someone who is familiar with Zombie lore. People would see their relatives sick, and try to help them and get bitten when it was unexpected. If there's no such thing as a Zombie movie in your world, you don't know it takes a head shot to klll them, you shoot at them and they just keep coming, bullets don't stop them (except a bullet to the brain, but, you don't know that). They're hungry and renlentless, so, if you don't learn about the headshot, it's difficult to prevent them from biting you once they get close enough to you, bcause your bullets did nothing to stop them. You know to shoot them in the head, because you've seen Zombie movies, but, you wouldn't know that if tere was no such thing. If you don't know the appocalypse is coming, you aren't going to carry your gun into the Mall with you. 1 Zombie in a mall or at a Concert or a Football game could spread it like Wildfire.

How many people would really go Rambo in the early days? I'll venture not many
 
The scene that kills it for me is the final one of the zombies creating a pillar of bodies to reach the top of that wall. The behavior there is way too much "swarm" and not nearly enough "horde", no matter how slow they move.

That doesn't really bother me. If all these zombies were chasing something/somebody up that wall, they'd probably just end up climbing on top of each other. I doubt they're doing it to "create a pillar." Each individual zombie is just climbing on whatever is in front of him; in this case, what's in front of him just happens to be a pile of more zombies.

I don't know, though, this movie looks way too much like a standard summer movie where "random thing threatens to destroy the world and one man risks everything to stop it while his wife cries a lot over the phone."

It might be a fun, action-packed summer movie, but I just can't bring myself to care about it.
 

That doesn't really bother me. If all these zombies were chasing something/somebody up that wall, they'd probably just end up climbing on top of each other. I doubt they're doing it to "create a pillar." Each individual zombie is just climbing on whatever is in front of him; in this case, what's in front of him just happens to be a pile of more zombies.

I don't know, though, this movie looks way too much like a standard summer movie where "random thing threatens to destroy the world and one man risks everything to stop it while his wife cries a lot over the phone."

It might be a fun, action-packed summer movie, but I just can't bring myself to care about it.[/QUOTE]


My thoughts exactly. Hell they might as well have gotten Michael Bay to direct this thing.

I guess my problem with the climbing scene is it looks too unnatural. Less like human beings and more like Alien xenomorphs or Bugs from Starship Troopers.
 
That would depend a lot on how it got started. a single out break in a small town? New York? multiple out breaks across the world? Read WWZ it does a pretty good job of showing why a zombie out break could be devastating.

I defiantly want to read the book and plan on buying it this weekend. According to the summary in the Zombie Wiki, the World War Z plague started in China and spread quickly due to illegal organ donor trade. Since that trade is illegal in the US and It seems very unlikely that any physician here would implant illegal organs to even a handful of US citizens - how did it spread here and for that matter Western Europe?

But lets assume for a moment that a small number of illegal organs made it into the US/Western Europe and a few physicians iimplanted them into the very rich - the only plausible way for the plague to spread quickly would be fast zombies not slow ones. Is my logic correct?
You're thnking like someone who is familiar with Zombie lore. People would see their relatives sick, and try to help them and get bitten when it was unexpected. If there's no such thing as a Zombie movie in your world, you don't know it takes a head shot to klll them, you shoot at them and they just keep coming, bullets don't stop them (except a bullet to the brain, but, you don't know that). They're hungry and renlentless, so, if you don't learn about the headshot, it's difficult to prevent them from biting you once they get close enough to you, bcause your bullets did nothing to stop them. You know to shoot them in the head, because you've seen Zombie movies, but, you wouldn't know that if tere was no such thing. If you don't know the appocalypse is coming, you aren't going to carry your gun into the Mall with you. 1 Zombie in a mall or at a Concert or a Football game could spread it like Wildfire.

How many people would really go Rambo in the early days? I'll venture not many
Hell, even if this happened in the real world today, I have a feeling a lot of what you say there would still be true. Even if they're familiar with zombie stories, most people probably wouldn't really accept that we were dealing with an actual zombiepocalypse until it was to late.
 
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