Drago-Kazov
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Would voters ever go for that? From which party would it come?
How would his/her private life be covered in the press?
How would his/her private life be covered in the press?
Would the US ever elect a president that is not married?
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Well, both James Buchanan and Grover Cleveland were elected president, despite being unmarried.
But I suppose you mean in the present day??
But I suppose you mean in the present day??
Drago-Kazov
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Yeah. Present day. I am bit sketchy on presidents before WW2.
How can a president represent family values without a helpmate by his side?
And who would redecorate the White House?
And who would redecorate the White House?
Well you say that, but look how quickly the fact that Ed Milliband wasn't married seemed to become an issue when he became Labour leader and he and his partner got married pretty sharpish after that.
There's a strange thing about the US. It preaches moral, equality, freedom, democracy and shit, yet when it comes for the people to elect a leader, it's a disaster in that regard.
It was a very hard fight to elect an African American President, and still there are total brainturds (some of them amongst the rich and influential) that think he's born in Kenya or that he's Muslim, AND - which is the important thing - criticize him for that. That country has problems.
Other countries have female, homosexual, non religious, non married leaders without even blinking.
But just wait for the first time the US citizens elect a woman as president. It will be celebrated in a self-indulgend self backslapping like it's the first time it ever happened in the entire history of mankind, the universe, and comic books.
It was a very hard fight to elect an African American President, and still there are total brainturds (some of them amongst the rich and influential) that think he's born in Kenya or that he's Muslim, AND - which is the important thing - criticize him for that. That country has problems.
Other countries have female, homosexual, non religious, non married leaders without even blinking.
But just wait for the first time the US citizens elect a woman as president. It will be celebrated in a self-indulgend self backslapping like it's the first time it ever happened in the entire history of mankind, the universe, and comic books.
That's us, except the gay part. She lives with her lover too, the sin! I cannot imagine a US president living with his/her lover to whom they were not married.
That passed me by completely. I was too bemused by him being picked over his brother.
Yeah that's always amused me, actually amused might be the wrong word...
Sadly you don't have to be happily married, or a true believer in faith to be elected President, you just have to give the impression of being those things.
Has Trump posted proof that Obama is actually from Venus yet?
Ed Milliband, more dangerous than he looks...
Yes, we probably will.
The only detail I'd quibble with: If Obama had been born in Kenya, it would've been a legitimate issue. The Constitution says that the President must be a natural-born citizen, etc., etc. But of course he wasn't born there, and the people who keep pushing the issue are fools and racists.
Otherwise, you're right on.
No it wouldn't have. He was born to an American citizen, that means he's "natural-born". Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico, but since he was born to American-citizens it was never an issue.
I think of some of the questions and issues that might arise with an unmarried president. Not my own concerns, but issues I can imagine coming up...
What kind of social life would be acceptable?
Would a president be allowed to casually date different women? Or solely exclusive relationships? What standards would he be held to?
If the president was dating one woman, would she be accepted in a first lady role during state functions and such? Or would that not work? Would it be possible for him to have different woman for personal casual dating and others for official functions?
Also, there's much emphasis on various candidates not being relatable to certain segments of society-- wealthy businessmen can't understand the plight of the poor, and so on.
With an unmarried (and presumably childless) president, I can imagine outcry that he can't relate to American families and their problems and concerns, he wouldn't know about their struggles.
I'm don't really have any opinions on these questions, I just think these are subjects that would appear in the media regarding a bachelor candidate/president.
What kind of social life would be acceptable?
Would a president be allowed to casually date different women? Or solely exclusive relationships? What standards would he be held to?
If the president was dating one woman, would she be accepted in a first lady role during state functions and such? Or would that not work? Would it be possible for him to have different woman for personal casual dating and others for official functions?
Also, there's much emphasis on various candidates not being relatable to certain segments of society-- wealthy businessmen can't understand the plight of the poor, and so on.
With an unmarried (and presumably childless) president, I can imagine outcry that he can't relate to American families and their problems and concerns, he wouldn't know about their struggles.
I'm don't really have any opinions on these questions, I just think these are subjects that would appear in the media regarding a bachelor candidate/president.
If I understand this correctly, from 1952 through 1986, if a child was born outside the U.S. and only one parent was a U.S. citizen, that parent had to have lived in the U.S. for "for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16" for the child to be a citizen. Obama's mother wasn't even old enough to have lived in the U.S. for five years after the age of 16. So he would't have been a natural born citizen.
This wouldn't have applied to George Romney, because of course he was born long before 1952. And it doesn't apply to anyone born after 1986. Besides, Romney's parents were both U.S. citizens, which is a slightly different situation anyway.
You are dead on with that.
The two parties tend to churn out middle aged, white, protestant, married candidates with two kids and a proactive, outspoken wife. You know, the all American guy.
We had enough problems voting a black guy into office and women making serious runs on the tickets (Hillary and Palin).
I'm no great fan of Obama, but I think all the birth certificate and Muslim shit is ridiculous. I'll probably vote for him again though, I wanted to vote for someone else, and thought Romney was a pretty moderate Republican in a hardcore blue state, but he's gone so far to the right that I am turned off by it.
I would have no problem electing an unmarried candidate. Half the country is divorced, myself included. No kids here either. This would have been a bigger deal when my parents were young, but not so much anymore you'd think. I'm sure hardcore 'family values' right wingers would prey on a single candidate.
^Because George Romney ran for President in 1968. It has nothing to do with the fact that his son is now a candidate, except maybe that he comes to mind more quickly because of that.
Drago-Kazov
Fleet Captain
I imagine older churchgoing blacks would have to say something about that too. Considering that young people are less likely to vote.
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