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TNG DVDs being "discontinued by the manufacturer"

^ Most decent HDTVs are far better at upscaling than the so-called "upconverting" DVD players ever were. By definition, upscaling must occur every time, without exceptions, that you watch standard material on an HD set. If the player doesn't do it, the TV will.
Yes, you're right. Sub £300/400 players will probably be no better. However, I can assure you, superior chipsets most certainly are. I do fully understand the upscaling process by the way.
 
But you guys are forgetting that too a lot of consumers, if they can get an up scaling DVD player for $15 bucks at Wal-Mart, while the cheapest Blu-Ray player is $50, they're going too pay the $15. Too most consumers they don't see the added benefit OR CLARITY in Blu-Rays, unlike when DVD's took over from VHS. If DVD manufacturers were too discontinue DVD players then you wold see people buying more Blu-Ray.

But with TNG---is that big "complete" box set from 2007 still in print? Since even if the Season sets were discontinued, the original versions would still be out.
 
If DVD manufacturers were too discontinue DVD players then you wold see people buying more Blu-Ray.

That will probably happen soon.

VCRs are already a dead technology; standard definition DVD players soon will follow.

Eventually, we will all go to streaming but I can't see that taking off big time for another 10 years or so. Blurays are still a niche market, DVD's are still pretty much everywhere. I have TOS remastered on DVD (I didn't have a bluray at the time) and it looks fine to me.

A DVD version of TNG remastered will appear not too far down the line - they may wait until all the blurays are out first (2014?) but it will happen.

;)
 
^ But why would they waste all that effort? Like I said, Blu-Ray players are inexpensive now, and anyone can use them (even if they don't have an HDTV). There's no real reason to deliberately forgo Blu-Ray in favor of standard definition DVD players. Given this, putting any significant effort into SD DVDs, at least for an extensive set like TNG-R, would not appear to be prudent.
 
But if they can make money - why wouldn't they?

I just can't see how it would take that much effort to put them out on DVD.
 
I think CBS is concerned that TNG fans would buy the remastered dvds over the remastered blurays.

They need sales to be good in order to justify the cost of doing this whole remaster.
 
I think CBS is concerned that TNG fans would buy the remastered dvds over the remastered blurays.

They need sales to be good in order to justify the cost of doing this whole remaster.

This makes no sense. If CBS thought they could make a boatload of cash pressing DVD's, they'd be pressing DVD's. Trek fans are early adopters of new technology, by and large.

I seriously doubt there are large contingents of fans who don't have access to Blu-ray players.
 
Yes, they can make money. But can they make ENOUGH money to justify the cost? That's the very essence of business.

Well, thats the key isn't it.

Honestly, I have no idea, but I can't see it being prohibative.

Surely most of the costs involved will be (hopefully) met by bluray sales and syndiction.

TOS was transferred to DVD and the originals deleted (movies and music are deleted and re-released all the time by the way).

How can you possibly rule it out for TNG?
 
NOOOOOO! I was afraid this was going to happen. I'm only up to season 3 on dvd. Pisses me off immensly. The dvds are already far over priced and I'm gonna guess the bluerays are even more.
eBay is your friend...I think (not sure if eBay and Canada are on friendly terms, but...)
 
Supply and demand i'm afraid, wait a couple of years. Season one shall return. in the mean time there is always the Tube.:rommie:
 
But if they can make money - why wouldn't they?

I just can't see how it would take that much effort to put them out on DVD.

Just to spin this. I can't see how it would take that much effort for a fan to go out and buy a blu-ray player. That's what I did. And I'm glad I did because the work that has gone into this and the quality of the product is amazing.

A player must cost all of three hours work?
 
I can still watch it, the blueray player upgrades the image

No, actually, this "upscaling" is not what you think it is. If they didn't do that, you would see a little postage stamp sized image surrounded by two feet of black on all sides. Upscaling simply means allowing the image of a standard DVD (or channel) to fill the screen. It does not make it better quality or anything like that.

It's up to Paramount to sell their product in a way that makes most money, it's not up to Paramount to sell Blu-ray players.

Exactly. Sure, they may lose a bit of business by selling TNG-R only on Blu-Ray, but those who can and will buy the new releases will more than make up for those who can't or won't do so.

And I apologize if this sounds harsh, but there's really very little excuse not to own a Blu-Ray player. If you can afford to buy DVDs at all, you can afford a BR player. You can get one such player for the price of two or three DVD movies! And since a BR player does not require a HDTV set to use (maybe to get the full HD effect it does, but not to simply watch), then I'm just not seeing the downside here.

do you work for a company that manufactures br players? :guffaw: I have one and to be honest after the first couple movies I got used to the picture and now I hardly notice if I'm watching a dvd or a blueray
 
^ But why would they waste all that effort? Like I said, Blu-Ray players are inexpensive now, and anyone can use them (even if they don't have an HDTV). There's no real reason to deliberately forgo Blu-Ray in favor of standard definition DVD players. Given this, putting any significant effort into SD DVDs, at least for an extensive set like TNG-R, would not appear to be prudent.
You seem like you don't have an understanding of the way consumers shop or the basic economic realities of many households who are on limited incomes.

Blu-Ray players are "inexpensive" compared to what they were a few years ago, yes. However, I can get a DVD player for $15. The cheapest Blu-Ray player is normally up in the $80 range. Think that $65 doesn't make a difference to many, many families? It does. A big difference.

Further, browse through the new releases at Walmart. The average DVD is $5-$10 cheaper than the average Blu-Ray disc. Again, think $10 per disc doesn't make a difference to a lot of families? It does.

And, as has been pointed out here, many consumers don't see the benefit of Blu-Ray over DVD. Argue with that all you want, but it's the reality.

No, there are plenty of reasons consumers may choose to "deliberately forgo" Blu-Ray for now.
 
The industry shouldn't try and shape the market by how they release their product, the consumer should shape the market by simple demand. If they want Blu-ray, they'll buy Blu-ray, if they want DVD, they'll buy DVD.
And if they were buying DVDs, they wouldn't stop making DVDs.

People aren't buying the DVDs.
 
The industry shouldn't try and shape the market by how they release their product, the consumer should shape the market by simple demand. If they want Blu-ray, they'll buy Blu-ray, if they want DVD, they'll buy DVD.
And if they were buying DVDs, they wouldn't stop making DVDs.

People aren't buying the DVDs.

My purchasing habits are 90% DVD and 10% Blu-ray at this time. Mostly because I like niche media, world cinema, anime, independent film and the like which distributors can't afford to release on Blu-ray (down to Sony's licensing fees and large minimum print runs) and have to release DVD only instead. Only major studios can afford to release everything on Blu-ray.

On top of that, it just isn't effective to re-release classic TV on high definition, when the budget isn't there for a TNG style resurrection, and the source material doesn't exist in a high enough resolution. I'd say most television pre 1995 just isn't viable in HD and never will be. Don't kill DVD just yet.
 
do you work for a company that manufactures br players? :guffaw: I have one and to be honest after the first couple movies I got used to the picture and now I hardly notice if I'm watching a dvd or a blueray
This.

For all the hype, the truth is that a good percentage of consumers can't really tell the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray quality. Nor do they care. When Blu-Rays compete with DVD's in terms of price, they'll buy them. Until then, they'll be happy with DVD.
 
Some laptops come with a BR drive, if you have a HD TV just use a HDMI cable to connect the TV and your laptop can double as a BR player.
 
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