Season ONE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

[Salinga]

Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

I have to confess: I am a little bit dissappointed. I didnt expect so much strong grain in the image, since it was shot in a well lit studio athmosphere.

Wendy Ruiz: The quality of the film does change a little bit between Season 1 and Season 3. In Season 1 the material generally had a lot more grain (and it was a different DP) than we are noticing now in Season 3. So far, for Season 3 [the film has] been in a lot better condition than Season 1. Craig Weiss: I can’t speak specifically, but I know they did change film-stocks – they got better, because when they used the higher ASA [film speed] stocks, if they didn’t have enough light it would get grainy. And I know as time went on, the stocks got better which reduced the amount of grain – as Wendy was saying – and the color looks better, and it improves throughout the seasons.

http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/cbsdigital_interview3.html

Well, that explains it.

 

[Michael]

"Better" film stock this, "better" film stock that – I still say the first two seasons look vastly better, more cintematic and more interestingly set up as the rest of the series.

 

[BillJ]

"Better" film stock this, "better" film stock that – I still say the first two seasons look vastly better, more cintematic and more interestingly set up as the rest of the series.

This has always been my opinion as well. Somehow, little or no film grain makes the image look "flatter" or less real.

 

[Brikar99]

"Better" film stock this, "better" film stock that – I still say the first two seasons look vastly better, more cintematic and more interestingly set up as the rest of the series.

This has always been my opinion as well. Somehow, little or no film grain makes the image look "flatter" or less real.

I submit that it's a drastic change in lighting style rather than film stock or grain level that makes the later seasons look so different.

 

[BillJ]

"Better" film stock this, "better" film stock that – I still say the first two seasons look vastly better, more cintematic and more interestingly set up as the rest of the series.

This has always been my opinion as well. Somehow, little or no film grain makes the image look "flatter" or less real.

I submit that it's a drastic change in lighting style rather than film stock or grain level that makes the later seasons look so different.

I'm talking about movies and TV in general

 

[Brikar99]

This has always been my opinion as well. Somehow, little or no film grain makes the image look "flatter" or less real.

I submit that it's a drastic change in lighting style rather than film stock or grain level that makes the later seasons look so different.

I'm talking about movies and TV in general

Oh... Well, then, carry on.

 

[ATimson]

"Better" film stock this, "better" film stock that – I still say the first two seasons look vastly better, more cintematic and more interestingly set up as the rest of the series.

More cinematic and more interestingly set up I'll give you. But I'd argue that the lighting seen in the later seasons is certainly more realistic for what you'd expect to see in such an environment (there's not going to be fancy yellow mood lighting in the conference room!), and is therefore better.

 

[BillJ]

"Better" film stock this, "better" film stock that – I still say the first two seasons look vastly better, more cintematic and more interestingly set up as the rest of the series.

More cinematic and more interestingly set up I'll give you. But I'd argue that the lighting seen in the later seasons is certainly more realistic for what you'd expect to see in such an environment (there's not going to be fancy yellow mood lighting in the conference room!), and is therefore better.

But it's TV. I'm there to be entertained, if I want realistic I will watch the news.

 

[Flake]

Season 1&2 lighting is better than 4/5/6/7

Season 3 is sort of in-between

Star Trek Generations is the best example of outer space lighting and remains the best looking Trek film imho.

 

[Brikar99]

Star Trek Generations is the best example of outer space lighting and remains the best looking Trek film imho.

Yes!

 

[Dream]

Season 1&2 lighting is better than 4/5/6/7

Season 3 is sort of in-between

I'll take the later seasons with the better writing over the first two seasons any day!

 

[Mr_Homn]

Season 1&2 lighting is better than 4/5/6/7

Season 3 is sort of in-between

I'll take the later seasons with the better writing over the first two seasons any day!

Season 3 is the best of both worlds (Pun intended)...

It has overall the best quality writing of the series, some of the lighting qualities of season 1/2, and it has some of Ron Jones's best work on the series!

 

[sadsquid]

Season 1&2 lighting is better than 4/5/6/7

Season 3 is sort of in-between

Star Trek Generations is the best example of outer space lighting and remains the best looking Trek film imho.

Hmm, Generations is actually my least favourite looking TNG movie. Too much orange! It felt like the whole movie was happening as the sun was setting. I guess that's just my thing. I preferred the subdued lighting of later seasons over the bright, unnatural-feeling lighting of the first and second seasons.

 

[Salinga]

Actually I find the lighting of GEN always irritating, because its pretty much too dark. It looked to me, like the D had a power outage or something. I understand the motive behind it, because they wanted to transport a certain mood, but I think it was "too much", because it took my concentration off a scene and made me think about "Why is it so dark there?" instead of watching the movie. It's like bad music or bad special effects, that make you think more about this aspect of a movie instead just beeing involved in the story of the movie itself.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

The bland, over-bright, somewhat washed out appearance of TNG's later seasons would've looked bloody awful on the big screen IMHO. Generations is absolutely beautiful to look at, a triumph of visual aesthetics.

 

[TheSeeker]

I have to admit I really like the lighting on the bridge as well as the two extra side stations in Generations. It's too bad we didn't get to see more of it.

 

[Salinga]

I have to admit I really like the lighting on the bridge as well as the two extra side stations in Generations. It's too bad we didn't get to see more of it.

The side stations AFAIK appeared first in the TNG episode "Yesterdays Enterprise", in the alternate 1701-D bridge. I agree, it would have been cool to keep these, at least to give more action to the background, but I also understand, why they didnt do it during the series: Too much of a change of the bridge and you also have to pay for the extras sitting there, pushing buttons and looking serious.

 

[TheSeeker]

Yeah, from what I heard it was the cost of keeping two more extras on set all day that nixed the idea of having the two side stations as a regular set piece.

 

[Mott the barber]

The bland, over-bright, somewhat washed out appearance of TNG's later seasons would've looked bloody awful on the big screen IMHO. Generations is absolutely beautiful to look at, a triumph of visual aesthetics.

I agree. The ship never looked better inside and out than on the big screen with the awesome 6-footer.

 

[asp7485]

Has anyone noticed just how many men are in skants in season one? At first I thought it was only one or two, but now I'm noticing some guy in a skant every other episode or so! There's one at the door for Troi's reception in "Haven", for example.