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minister in "Demons" was a demon

magarity

Lieutenant Junior Grade
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I was watching the 4th season episode titled "Demons" trying to figure out where I had seen the actor who plays the minister when it suddenly hit me: he was Buffy's high school principal who wanted to turn into a demon by eating all the students. Was he cast in an episode with this title on purpose? ahah!
 
Wow, I finished the second half and was really surprised he didn't turn out bad. He seemed waaay too insistent the the facility be destroyed immediately. As if they had something on him. Perhaps his character was being set up to be a stealth bad guy had there been another season....
 
I found it ridiculous how this guy represented the Government as either a high official or the highest official, dozens of levels above the usual lot who boss Johno around, but Archer abused him like a Muppet.
 
No, Janeway was killed off in Treklit five years ago to some controversy. She has now been returned from the dead in the latest Voyager book. In the lead up to the book there was a lot of debate and speculation that she might return in it. I made the avatar prior to the books publication to serve as either a triumphant announcement or a protest depending on her fate.

The not.dead. meme was popular on this board after Trip died in TATV.
 
I found it ridiculous how this guy represented the Government as either a high official or the highest official, dozens of levels above the usual lot who boss Johno around, but Archer abused him like a Muppet.

IIRC, there's a scene where Samuels tries to give Hoshi an order but she doesn't follow it. Since he's Prime Minister - the head of government for all Earth - shouldn't he also be her Commander in Chief? :confused:

Perhaps Earth's rules work differently. Maybe it's the Earth head of STATE (the President) who fulfills this role. Or maybe it's neither. Or maybe I need a drink.
 
Samuels being the Prime Minister didn't happen until the books, so it's no surprise that he didn't have any military authority in the show.
 
Perhaps Earth's rules work differently. Maybe it's the Earth head of STATE (the President) who fulfills this role. Or maybe it's neither. Or maybe I need a drink.

Ah, see there's a big difference between being Commander in Chief and being the commanding officer. It goes from the CiC to the Department of Defense and then on to the appropriate commanders. See the Goldwater-Nichols Act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater–Nichols_Act
... so the CiC doesn't bark orders directly at commanders in the middle of an operation.
 
No, Janeway was killed off in Treklit five years ago to some controversy.

Ah, I see; alas I only have the temperance to sit through the shows. I haven't read any of the novels since one where Captain Kirk was adopted as an honorary member of some alien race and they insisted on calling him by his complete name every time one talked to him.

By an amazing coincidence I remember that when watching Voyager I mentally referred to Captain Janeway as "Cupcake".
 
but Archer abused him like a Muppet.
All public officials should be slapped around like dime bag dealers down at the police precinct.

IIRC, there's a scene where Samuels tries to give Hoshi an order but she doesn't follow it. Since he's Prime Minister - the head of government for all Earth - shouldn't he also be her Commander in Chief?
It's never been exactly clear who Starfleet works for. We did see a UESPA sign at one point, but is Starfleet a government agency? Maybe not.

:)
 
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