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18yo cleans gun, shoots own penis and testicle

Perfect? I've made TONS of mistakes in my life. I've done MANY stupid things, and will probably do many more. I'll assume most if not all posters here would say the same for themselves.

That would be an interesting thread. What dumb things have you done in your life.. not sure how smart it would be for me to confess all of them :lol:
 
Hey, that's what I meant when I said their laws suck. :p

The second amendment is the backup plan that keeps the government from taking away the other amendments.

That is how it was originally intended, but it is utterly worthless for that purpose now.
As Afghanistan and Iraq show anything, it's just the will to keep resisting that wins not the types of arms. As for the kid, I don't know whether the purchase was legal or not. But the second amendment is no guarantee against stupidity. And gross stupidity is the only kind description for cleaning a loaded gun.
 
We all do silly stuff at times. Doesn't mean we "deserve" bad things happening to us. You could say somebody who has no clue how to handle a gun shouldn't be getting one. But your laws just suck then. You need to make sure that a person like that can't even buy one.

I sometimes feel that way about the Darwin awards in general, or at least the way people interpret them. While some of the mistakes that have gotten people Darwin awards are certainly amusing, I find the unspoken “let's celebrate, we're better off with this guy's children” vibe uncomfortable. Statistically, it might help us evolutionary, but these are not the values our society is based on, and also, since these are individuals and not statistics, it's not even true in a huge part of the cases. It might be a shock to some people, but intelligent people do silly things too.

That said, I see nothing wrong with laughing about them. If you do something hilarious, sorry, but it's still hilarious even if the result is terrible. I find nothing funny about gun mishandling accidents, though. And from what I hear, they happen quite often. So this to me is just unsettling.
 
Anyone heard from apostle83 since this story broke?

No :lol:

I was raided by the police unannounced. I was quite surprised.

Was it after this photo was taken by chance?

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I don't think it's hilarious if somebody hurts himself like that. Now I can see how it's funny if somebody has a minor issue because he does something stupid. But we don't know how bad this is. And since we don't I'd prefer to err on the side of caution and not be a jackass.
I agree:techman:
It is not fun when people get badly hurt:borg:

By the way, why some women find it amusing when guys get hurt to their genitals..or have them cut off:confused:
I mean, f this would have been a young woman, who got hurt to her vagina and I would be joking about it, there would be at least couple of dozen feminists telling me what an women hating bastard I am..but if something like that happens to guy it does seem more Ok to make jokes about it.
( This is not directed to any of the female posters of the forum, I am just generally wondering this, sorry if too much off topic..)
 
Pretty idiotic to be cleaning a LOADED gun. I mean, common sense should tell you that's a bad idea.
 
These kind of stories always provoke puerile humour (in both sexes). It's just the way people are.
 
I'm not sure why you think he deserves the Darwin award, his actions weren't that stupid. Careless, but not over the top stupid. If he'd had an apple in his lap, and his friend was going to shoot the apple, that would be a Darwin moment, unless such a person were doing these tricks as a professional entertainer.

I hear people saying "How stupid can you be to not unload the gun". Well some times you forget to put the milk back in the fridge, sometimes you forget to take the bullets out of the gun.

Then there is always the possibility that he thought it was empty, and if it was a semi automatic, he may not have known to empty the chamber, after all, he had just gotten the gun.

And is the humor supposed to be that he got shot cleaning his gun? Or that he got his penis and testicles injured?

While cartoonish slap stick is funny, and seeing a guy get whacked in the nuts with a cactus or frying pan is comical, it's not so comical when in real life you see someone get seriously injured.

Though I have noticed we live in a bit of a misandrist society
that takes great pleasure in males receiving injury, castration and emasculation. A youtuber by the name Amazing Atheist made a video about this exact phenomenon when he heard Sharon Osbourn on The View joking and laughing about a man who got his penis cut off by his wife http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JA4EPRbWhQ

As for needing laws to keep guns out of the hands of idiots and the Second Amendment:
All I can say is idiots, or more accurately irresponsible people, do more damage by having a drivers license than by having a license to own a gun.
We are a country that hands out drivers license to 16 year olds. These are the 16 year old males that want to spin wheels and drive fast to be manly, and the 16 year old girls who drive down the road while texting their friends and doing their makeup. sure they could hurt themselves, but they could also hurt an innocent family in the next car.

And I know someone might want to turn this into a ban guns statement by saying "but you can only hurt people accidentally with a car, guns hurt people on purpose" and to that I say "road rage", some SOB cuts you off, slam into them, run them off the road, you're car is more powerful than a gun at this point.

Either way, guns, cars, hell even gasoline, are dangerous things, and you got three kinds of people who are allowed to own all three, the stupid, the malicious, and the accident prone.

When all is said and done, I don't think it's right to laugh at this guy. People get injured using power tools all the time, it doesn't make them stupid.
Stupid is when 4 or 5 years ago, this young wigger got signed to some gangsta rap record label, and to celebrate he threw a party and thought it would be funny to put this pen gun to his head and pull the trigger, because he had tried firing it earlier, and it was jammed and wouldn't fire. So at the party he puts it to his head pulls the trigger and... dead.
I'm sorry, but that's Darwin award material. And of course his mother went on and on about how dangerous these guns are and how they should be banned. Because that's how America rationalizes things.
And just that fact this little white gangsta rapper would have gone on to make millions talking about all the hos he pimps, and all the thugs and cops he shot, and then one day gets into a feud with some other gangsta rapper, and then winds up dead like Tupac and biggie. But instead he blows his brains out by acting stupid. I just have to raise my hand and say "I don't think the world is really gonna miss him."
So give that guy a Darwin Award, but not this young man who had an accident with a gun that could have just as easily been a car wreck or power tool accident.

And I find it odd that no one in America can have a gun accident without it being in the news. Chop your hand off with a power tool, no news cares about that. Shoot yourself in the foot, every news outlet covers it. Who says the media isn't liberal.
 
^I'll preface this comment by saying, I get the analogy. However don't we teach people to drive, and we also having driving tests.

No doubt the various states within the US have different criteria when it comes to gun ownership i.e background checks etc.. but that's not quite the same.
 
^I'll preface this comment by saying, I get the analogy. However don't we teach people to drive, and we also having driving tests.

No doubt the various states within the US have different criteria when it comes to gun ownership i.e background checks etc.. but that's not quite the same.

Actually in the state of Maryland you must take a firearms training course to own a handgun. I'm not sure about other states.

Also in most states you must be 21 to buy a hand gun, 18 to buy a long gun, 16 to drive a car, 15 with learners permit.
 
I hear people saying "How stupid can you be to not unload the gun". Well some times you forget to put the milk back in the fridge, sometimes you forget to take the bullets out of the gun.

Are you seriously giving equal weight to these two scenarios? Forgetting to put the milk back in the fridge may lead to the milk going bad and someone needing to run to the shop to buy some more. In a worst case scenario it could lead to someone getting a dodgy tummy from drinking bad milk. Forgetting to take the bullets out of a gun, however, could lead to serious injury or death. Spot the difference?

I'm with propita on seeing humour in this situation. This young man was incredibly stupid for doing what he did, and has no one to blame but himself for the consequences. Sure, 18-year-old humans aren't the most sensible creatures on the planet (if I could go back in time I'd smack the living hell out of my 18-year-old self for a myriad of reasons), but blaming this incident solely on the young man's youth is wrong IMO. Plenty of people that age wouldn't go near a gun if they didn't know how to handle it safely.
 
Of course, nobody bothers coming up with procedures to follow for remembering to put the milk back in the fridge, because it isn't that important if the milk goes off. But failing to devise and follow procedures to prevent yourself being shot when cleaning a gun absolutely falls under the category of "stupid" as does unneccesarily injuring yourself with any dangerous equipment as a result of such extreme negligence.

Anybody who treats refrigerating milk and remembering to unload a gun with equal gravitas should probably not be trusted to tie their own shoelace, let alone own a gun, or operate any dangerous equipment.
 
I hear people saying "How stupid can you be to not unload the gun". Well some times you forget to put the milk back in the fridge, sometimes you forget to take the bullets out of the gun.

Forget to put milk back in the fridge? You're out a couple of bucks.

Forget to take bullets out of a gun? People get injured or killed.

If you're going to be a gun owner you should act a bit more responsible with it than you do a jug of milk. It's not hard to tell when a gun is out of bullets when you last use it. It's not hard to tell when the magazine is out of the gun, nor is it hard to cock the slide of the gun to eject a bullet that may be loaded. A responsible gun owner wanting to clean (a new gun, not likely to be very dirty) would make sure a gun is not loaded unless he intends to use it. Hell, "standard" gun practice tells you not to point a gun (even if you know it to be unloaded) at something unless you intend to shoot it.

I'd assume this rule extends to your own balls.

I don't wish this guy any serious long-term effects concerning his manhood and ability to have children. But he's an idiot for cleaning a loaded gun. A loaded gun is not the time to "forget to put milk back in the fridge."
 
not to mention the fact, that if you're familiar with holding a gun, then you know the weight difference between a loaded and empty gun... it might not be much weight wise, but if you've ever held one, you can tell the difference instantly

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