It's the fault of the people who throw huge amounts of money around to finance the extremely expensive campaigns of rich old white men to get them elected. Or in other words, rich old white men.
18yo cleans gun, shoots own penis and testicle
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It's the fault of the people who throw huge amounts of money around to finance the extremely expensive campaigns of rich old white men to get them elected. Or in other words, rich old white men.
She was dismissed (on the surface) for legally legitimate reasons. I think something like her "expert testimony" wasn't strong enough for her to be "an expert." The under-lining point is the decision was made without any input from a woman in the process.
Does it?
I mean, the idea that humanity's better off if stupid people don't breed just reeks of, frankly, eugenics and social darwinism. Part of the reason people laughing about this sort of thing rubs me the wrong way is that it's mean, and the other part is the deeply creepy subtext to it.
Hence we have disturbing folllow-up posts like these, where propita says, without irony:
Bingo.
In a movie, sure. But laughing at someone being horribly mutilated, guilty only of poor decision making - different matter. This is kind of why gladiatorial combat is not cool but Gladiator can be. It's basically about distinguishing between fiction where stuff only exists for our amusement, and factual accounts that have impacted actual, other human beings.
I mean pretty much anything can be funny, including some genuinely tasteless material. I have a weakness for cannibalism jokes, it doesn't mean that if a news story comes on about a guy eating out his neighbor's liver is shown I'm going to start chuckling.
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A: He was stupid for not unloading the gun before cleaning it.
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B: His father is partly responsible for not telling him to always make sure the gun was unloaded.
PS there are so much people finding idiotic ways to off themselves,one can't help but laugh at how imaginative/creative some are in finding new and sometime awesome ways to do it.
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B: His father is partly responsible for not telling him to always make sure the gun was unloaded.
PS there are so much people finding idiotic ways to off themselves,one can't help but laugh at how imaginative/creative some are in finding new and sometime awesome ways to do it.
I think in my head there's a difference between stupidity and -rampant- stupidity, and something like this, in my head, falls into the latter category.
I'm also concerned (not necessarily with good reason) that we may have become too prone to overlook, apologize for, or otherwise validate rampantly stupid behavior.
Put another way...this is a situation where I just have no ability to understand how the kid got himself into this situation in the first place, which complicates my ability to sympathize.
I'm also concerned (not necessarily with good reason) that we may have become too prone to overlook, apologize for, or otherwise validate rampantly stupid behavior.
Put another way...this is a situation where I just have no ability to understand how the kid got himself into this situation in the first place, which complicates my ability to sympathize.
You're shooting at the wrong post there. That's one I responded to.
When I hear "eugenics," I think of governmental authority taking active measures to ensure that people with "desirable" traits have as many children as possible, while actively discouraging "undesirables" from breeding -- even to the point of forced sterilization.
If people render themselves incapable of having children through their own stupidity, that's a different matter altogether.
I would.
Okay, so I have a sick, perverted sense of humor.
And somehow YOUR name got attached to MY post, and vice versa!
Oh, wise guy
Yeah, it's horrible, but let's face it, if you clean a gun without making sure it's empty and safe, you deserve it.
I don't think you "deserve" it, but I would say you don't deserve much sympathy for any catastrophe that results.
Here is a video explaining how commercials with violence against men is called "funny" yet when once in a blue moon a commercial that has violence against women comes on, it's called misogyny, sexist, and people say "I don't think violence against women is something to be made light of". And again, when someone complains about violence against men in commercials, they're told to lighten up, it's only a joke, a man can deal with a little sexist humor, quit being a cry baby."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVGaq6fxuMI
This isn't about just violence against men in the media. The very fact that we as a society see nothing wrong with violence against men, when it's just a joke, yet take to the streets with protest the moment we see violence against women, even when it's a joke, is symbolic of how we don't have any desire to take seriously violence, abuse, and rape, against men, and no desire to stop it.
People who say "lighten up, it's just a joke" when the violence is against a man, will not say the same thing when people complain about comical violence against women.
If the news article had been about a woman getting hit in the crotch with a chainsaw while doing yard work, there would be no jokes about do it yourself hysterectomy, or hand this woman a Darwin award for stupidity. And if someone was that callus, they'd instantly be torn down as sexist, and misogynist.
Here's another video about misandry in commercials, by the same guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWaYf6F11WQ
This focuses on commercials that have violence against men, many of which is committed by women.
I think we've seen a lot of these commercials.
And it makes me wonder, are we so used to seeing men get beaten, run over by cars, slapped, tasered, hit in the nuts, and often done by women, that we've just gotten so used to it. Has seeing men get injured so many times a day on TV, in a way that is meant to be "all in fun" desensitized us to men getting hurt in the real world?
Perhaps after you've seen a Doritos commercial where a man gets his crotch attacked by a pitbull, a hundred times a day, you here about some young man having a firearm accident and injuring his crotch, and you think it's funny, just like the poor schmuck in those funny commercials.
We constantly see PSA's about domestic violence, where men are the attackers, and women the victims. The reality is, men are more frequently the victims of domestic violence. And children are more likely to be abused by their mother than their father. And when a husband is abused and calls the cops, he is more likely than not, the one to go to jail, regardless of the circumstances, even in cases where the woman admits to attacking him.
Here is a video about truth in domestic violence against men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOu_BszChIE
And here is a video of a woman on an australian talk show talking about males being the biggest victims of domestic violence, and the talk show hosts point to how popular the use of violence against men for commedy is in the media, and how that shapes our view of real world domestic violence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgvHY--xeC4
The young man who got his penis, testicle, and thigh, shot, must have been in unbelievable traumatic pain. The pain he is going to feel is going to be there for a long time. He is going to need surgery just to be able to urinate again. He is going to have to have a cathoder. He may need a cathoder for the rest of his life. He will probably never again be able to experience sex.
Yeah a an 18 year old man being irresponsible with a fire arm and getting seriously hurt like this is about as funny as an 18 year old girl getting into a car accident and having her body and face ripped apart because she was texting while driving.
And again, I don't think it's fair we talk about giving him a Darwin award and call him stupid. If he and his friends were tossing live ammunition into the camp fire for fun, then you'd have an argument.
The people who make comments like "well we all know to check to see if the gun was loaded." probably wouldn't be saying "well we all know to wear your safety belt" if the article had been about a teen girl flying face first through a windshield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVGaq6fxuMI
This isn't about just violence against men in the media. The very fact that we as a society see nothing wrong with violence against men, when it's just a joke, yet take to the streets with protest the moment we see violence against women, even when it's a joke, is symbolic of how we don't have any desire to take seriously violence, abuse, and rape, against men, and no desire to stop it.
People who say "lighten up, it's just a joke" when the violence is against a man, will not say the same thing when people complain about comical violence against women.
If the news article had been about a woman getting hit in the crotch with a chainsaw while doing yard work, there would be no jokes about do it yourself hysterectomy, or hand this woman a Darwin award for stupidity. And if someone was that callus, they'd instantly be torn down as sexist, and misogynist.
Here's another video about misandry in commercials, by the same guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWaYf6F11WQ
This focuses on commercials that have violence against men, many of which is committed by women.
I think we've seen a lot of these commercials.
And it makes me wonder, are we so used to seeing men get beaten, run over by cars, slapped, tasered, hit in the nuts, and often done by women, that we've just gotten so used to it. Has seeing men get injured so many times a day on TV, in a way that is meant to be "all in fun" desensitized us to men getting hurt in the real world?
Perhaps after you've seen a Doritos commercial where a man gets his crotch attacked by a pitbull, a hundred times a day, you here about some young man having a firearm accident and injuring his crotch, and you think it's funny, just like the poor schmuck in those funny commercials.
We constantly see PSA's about domestic violence, where men are the attackers, and women the victims. The reality is, men are more frequently the victims of domestic violence. And children are more likely to be abused by their mother than their father. And when a husband is abused and calls the cops, he is more likely than not, the one to go to jail, regardless of the circumstances, even in cases where the woman admits to attacking him.
Here is a video about truth in domestic violence against men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOu_BszChIE
And here is a video of a woman on an australian talk show talking about males being the biggest victims of domestic violence, and the talk show hosts point to how popular the use of violence against men for commedy is in the media, and how that shapes our view of real world domestic violence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgvHY--xeC4
The young man who got his penis, testicle, and thigh, shot, must have been in unbelievable traumatic pain. The pain he is going to feel is going to be there for a long time. He is going to need surgery just to be able to urinate again. He is going to have to have a cathoder. He may need a cathoder for the rest of his life. He will probably never again be able to experience sex.
Yeah a an 18 year old man being irresponsible with a fire arm and getting seriously hurt like this is about as funny as an 18 year old girl getting into a car accident and having her body and face ripped apart because she was texting while driving.
And again, I don't think it's fair we talk about giving him a Darwin award and call him stupid. If he and his friends were tossing live ammunition into the camp fire for fun, then you'd have an argument.
The people who make comments like "well we all know to check to see if the gun was loaded." probably wouldn't be saying "well we all know to wear your safety belt" if the article had been about a teen girl flying face first through a windshield.
You'd probably do a lot better here if you were more concise in your posts. There are things I'd like to address but I just get overwhelmed and a bit bored by how long your posts are and end up never responding. You don't have to take my advice and I hope I'm not coming across as too rude. I just think you'd be more likely to have actual conversations if you rethought your posting habits.
To Kestra and DonIago: yeah I know. My posts are long. And you guys aren't the first to complain about it. And I'm aware half the people don't read my posts because tl;dr
I guess I am different than most people, I actually give more care to reading a long post than a quick one liner. I enjoy reading responses that look like lectures or articles.
I guess I am different than most people, I actually give more care to reading a long post than a quick one liner. I enjoy reading responses that look like lectures or articles.
Well, FWIW when I come here I tend to want to do a fairly quick run-through. Read up on any threads I've participated in, -maybe- browse new threads (though almost never more than the first page of them), and generally not spend a whole lot of time here before moving on. It takes a lot to get me invested enough to read a long post.
And someone please tell him how to spell "catheter."
As for domestic violence, I'm against it. I say we keep violence on the street where it belongs.
