Red Dawn trailer finally out

[Data Holmes]

Not to mention, the ones who fap at the idea, itching to use their collection of assault rifles.

You fail with the mention of "assault rifles".

I guess I'm not hip with the gun nuts lingo.

Assault Rifle is a title applied by Gun Hating Liberals™ and is simply code for "Scary looking black gun".

 

[iguana_tonante]

I suppose wikipedia is a gun hating liberal, then.

 

[MANT!]

Actually the term "assault rifle" is correct...

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assault_rifle

http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/m4-m4a1-e.html

it's "assault weapon" that's the political label..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon
The US military uses the term assault rifle...

lets keep to the truth, ok?

 

[JarodRussell]

Ouch. Might put some ice on that burn.

 

[Jono]

Honestly, I don't really know anything about this film. Is this one of those things that is originally buried by the studio and then released upon the lead's success?

I can't believe Hemsworth signed on for this thing within the last two years. If so, dude needs to find a new agent.

The film was produced in late 2009, with an intended release date in November 2010, but it was shelved due to MGM's financial woes. When that was resolved, the film was held back again in order to make the villains North Korean instead of Chinese (the studio decided that they didn't want to give up on the rapidly expanding Chinese film market).

As for Hemsworth, he signed on to the project before he became a big star in Thor. Snagging a leading role like this probably seemed like a good opportunity at the time, both for his career and his personal finances.

Plus he was too old for Tomorrow When the War Began.

 

[Data Holmes]

Actually the term "assault rifle" is correct...

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assault_rifle

http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/m4-m4a1-e.html

it's "assault weapon" that's the political label..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon
The US military uses the term assault rifle...

lets keep to the truth, ok?

True. Sorry.

However, the usage by the Iguana in this thread is still fail.

 

[Thestral]

I think the saddest thing about this thing is that it stars some people I like... Chris Hemsworth, Adrienne Palicki, Josh Hutcherson, Jeffrey Dean Morgan...

Though I like the crack about Hemsworth leading them into the Cabin in the Woods.

Also, comics crossover with Thor and Wonder Woman teaming up, helped out by Supernatural's John Winchester?

 

[BillJ]

I own the original on DVD and like it, will probably go see this so I can complain that they touched my childhood in an inappropriate place.

 

[Candlelight]

I can't believe Hemsworth signed on for this thing within the last two years. If so, dude needs to find a new agent.

As for Hemsworth, he signed on to the project before he became a big star in Thor. Snagging a leading role like this probably seemed like a good opportunity at the time, both for his career and his personal finances.

Plus he was too old for Tomorrow When the War Began.

Which, ironically, is a rip off of Red Dawn.

 

[Skywalker]

I know he actually filmed this movie (and Cabin in the Woods) well before Thor, but...Chris Hemsworth is going to be in everything now, isn't he?

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Actually the term "assault rifle" is correct...

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assault_rifle

http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/m4-m4a1-e.html

it's "assault weapon" that's the political label..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon
The US military uses the term assault rifle...

lets keep to the truth, ok?

True. Sorry.

However, the usage by the Iguana in this thread is still fail.

No, it wasn't. You're just doing the same thing you frequently do when anyone mentions anything about guns, which is to get all pedantic about a piece of nomenclature or description of a gun to show how much more knowledgeable you allegedly are over them, and then fail miserably at the task of demonstrating that.

I think the saddest thing about this thing is that it stars some people I like... Chris Hemsworth, Adrienne Palicki, Josh Hutcherson, Jeffrey Dean Morgan...

Though I like the crack about Hemsworth leading them into the Cabin in the Woods.

Also, comics crossover with Thor and Wonder Woman teaming up, helped out by Supernatural's John Winchester?

And Peeta from Hunger Games (Hutcherson), who should kick ass in the running around the forest killing people portion of the invasion. Plus, isn't the evil sexbot from Transformers in there? Our militias are awesome.

 

[Data Holmes]

Actually the term "assault rifle" is correct...

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assault_rifle

http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/m4-m4a1-e.html

it's "assault weapon" that's the political label..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon
The US military uses the term assault rifle...

lets keep to the truth, ok?

True. Sorry.

However, the usage by the Iguana in this thread is still fail.

No, it wasn't. You're just doing the same thing you frequently do when anyone mentions anything about guns, which is to get all pedantic about a piece of nomenclature or description of a gun to show how much more knowledgeable you allegedly are over them, and then fail miserably at the task of demonstrating that.

No. An assault rifle is a select fire weapon. Very few people can own them in this country as they are heavily restricted, highly expensive, and limited in number.

The Lizard is specifically talking about "Military Style" assault weapons, Ie big scary black guns. They are plain semi auto rifles, they shoot one shot for every pull of the trigger. To modify them to select fire or fully Automatic fire is both highly illegal and extremely difficult to do safely.

In other words, It's usage is Fail!

 

[Locutus of Bored]

No. An assault rifle is a select fire weapon. Very few people can own them in this country as they are heavily restricted, highly expensive, and limited in number.

The Lizard is specifically talking about "Military Style" assault weapons, Ie big scary black guns. They are plain semi auto rifles, they shoot one shot for every pull of the trigger. To modify them to select fire or fully Automatic fire is both highly illegal and extremely difficult to do safely.

In other words, It's usage is Fail!

So you acknowledge that there are people who own private collections of true assault rifles in this country? Strange then that you're arguing this, since that's literally all he said. Nothing about how many there are, though somewhere around 175,000 licensed ones alone is no small number.

Not to mention, the ones who fap at the idea, itching to use their collection of assault rifles.

The Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 addressed the abuses noted in the 1982 Senate Judiciary Subcommittee report. Among the reforms intended to loosen restrictions on gun ownership were the reopening of interstate sales of long guns on a limited basis, legalization of ammunition shipments through the U.S. Postal Service (a partial repeal of the Gun Control Act), removal of the requirement for record keeping on sales of non-armor-piercing ammunition, and federal protection of transportation of firearms through states where possession of those firearms would otherwise be illegal. However, the Act also contained a provision that banned the sale of machine guns manufactured after the date of enactment to civilians, restricting sales of these weapons to the military and law enforcement. Thus, in the ensuing years, the limited supply of these arms available to civilians has caused an enormous increase in their price, with most costing in excess of $10,000. Regarding these fully automatic firearms owned by private citizens in the United States, political scientist Earl Kruschke said "approximately 175,000 automatic firearms have been licensed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (the federal agency responsible for administration of the law).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

The assault weapons ban did not restrict weapons capable of fully automatic fire, such as assault rifles and machine guns, which have been continuously and heavily regulated since the National Firearms Act of 1934 was passed. Subsequent laws such as the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 also affected the importation and civilian ownership of fully automatic firearms, the latter fully prohibiting sales of newly manufactured machine guns to non-law enforcement or SOT (special occupational taxpayer) dealers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

Yes, but don't expect to go to your local gun shop or gun show and buy one. They are very expensive and are in limited supply. You need to be 21 years old if you wish to purchase a true assault rifle, which would be an NFA taxed stamped select-fire Class III firearm capable of full auto function. Buying NFA items is NOT easy. Full auto rifles are very expensive and there is a limited supply available to the public (your local gun store or gun show WILL PROBABLY NOT have any). Full auto capable "assault rifles" ARE NOT being bought at gun shops and gun shows in the US and taken to Mexico. All NFA items must be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF). Private owners wishing to purchase an NFA item must obtain permission from the ATF, obtain a signature from the county sheriff or city or town chief of police (not necessarily permission), pass an extensive background check (including a NICS), submit a photograph and fingerprints, fully register the firearm, receive ATF written permission before moving the firearm across state lines, and pay a tax ($200). While an individual owner does not need a NFA dealer license to buy Title II firearms. A licensed Class III dealer would have to receive the rifle for you before it could be transferred to you.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_legal_to_buy_automatic_weapons_and_assault_rifles_in_the_US

May machine guns be transferred from one registered owner to another?

Yes. If the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986, it may be transferred pursuant to an approved ATF Form 4 (5320.4).

[18 U.S.C. 922(o)(2), 26 U.S.C. 5812]

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-machine-guns.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act#Registration.2C_purchases.2C_taxes_and_transfers

There aren't numerous states where the laws aren't restricted over and above the federal law?

http://www.westernfirearms.com/wfc/default?set=06



Like I said, you're being pedantic and trying to one-up a very simple point.

 

[Thestral]

I think the saddest thing about this thing is that it stars some people I like... Chris Hemsworth, Adrienne Palicki, Josh Hutcherson, Jeffrey Dean Morgan...

Though I like the crack about Hemsworth leading them into the Cabin in the Woods.

Also, comics crossover with Thor and Wonder Woman teaming up, helped out by Supernatural's John Winchester?

And Peeta from Hunger Games (Hutcherson), who should kick ass in the running around the forest killing people portion of the invasion. Plus, isn't the evil sexbot from Transformers in there? Our militias are awesome.

Damn, you're right. This is getting more awesome by the minute. Now we just need to replace the villains again, this time with demon footsoldiers invading via some dimensional portal and we'll actually have ourselves a movie worth something. Can our unlikely band of heroes - and one villain trying to save her...circuits... - brought from across the multiverse save the day?

 

[EmoBorg]

They should have replaced the Russian Bear with the Chinese Panda and not with the North Korean Horse.

 

[Deckerd]

And yes I know it's fiction, but I can see that this trailer is pandering to those who think we might actually get invaded.

Not to mention, the ones who fap at the idea, itching to use their collection of assault rifles.

I'm reminded of the bunker dwellers in Tremors (excellent movie btw).

 

[Starkers]

Ah yes, amusing that a couple who built themsevles a big underground bunker full of guns to survive a surface attack ended up having the place trashed by giant worms

I wonder if the remake will do the same "They can take my gun when they prise it from my cold dead hand." joke as the original? I say joke, but I always thought for such a right leaning film that moment felt quite telling and almost anti gun ownership.

I may go see this becase I did use to love the original, though haven't seen it in yonks. Ah the daydreams about paratroopers dropping onto my school playing fields...anything to get me away from O'Levels (showing my age there)

 

[Bob The Skutter]

And yes I know it's fiction, but I can see that this trailer is pandering to those who think we might actually get invaded.

Not to mention, the ones who fap at the idea, itching to use their collection of assault rifles.

I'm reminded of the bunker dwellers in Tremors (excellent movie btw).

Ah, Tremors. I used to love that film. Even a couple of the sequels.

 

[Roger Wilco]

To be honest, it actually looks like an entertaining, overly patriotic, America Fuck Ya, movie with a totally out there story necessitated by the need of having a plot where some nation invades the US so the normal people can go all "america, Fuck ya!" on them...

I agree, except for the "entertaining" part, that remains to be seen.

I did like the original though.

 

[Candlelight]

Ah yes, amusing that a couple who built themsevles a big underground bunker full of guns to survive a surface attack ended up having the place trashed by giant worms

Bacon: "What's this stuff?"
Gross: "Cannon fuse"
Bacon: "What'd'ya use that for?"
Gross: "For my cannon..."