chekov's first name

[awiltz2]

I believe it was the first time, except possibly when he introduced himself to Khan during Space Seed.

I watched The Wrath of Khan today for the first time, and I don't find it too hard to believe that they were familiar with one another.

In Space Seed, Khan read pretty much read everything the computer had to offer. If I remember correctly, he even learned about people's ranks and identities and so on. So it isn't too hard to believe that Khan (with his superior intellect and probably superior memory) would remember Chekov's name.

As for Chekov remembering Khan ...

Maybe it is standard for all crew members to be educated on the previous near-death-experiences of the Enterprise, to be better prepared in the event that a similar situation arises.

But Chekov did seem to react in a way that would imply that he directly witnessed Khan in Space Seed 15 years prior.

Oh well. Very funny joke though .

 

[Christopher]

^It's a big ship, and we didn't see all 430 crewmembers in the first season. The simplest explanation is that Chekov was onboard but wasn't yet a bridge officer. (In DC Comics' Who's Who in Star Trek, Allan Asherman postulated that Chekov had served in engineering at the time and had led the resistance to Khan's people's takeover of the engine room. I borrowed that in my novel Ex Machina and it's been cited in one or two other Trek novels since then.)

 

[Greg Cox]

^It's a big ship, and we didn't see all 430 crewmembers in the first season. The simplest explanation is that Chekov was onboard but wasn't yet a bridge officer. (In DC Comics' Who's Who in Star Trek, Allan Asherman postulated that Chekov had served in engineering at the time and had led the resistance to Khan's people's takeover of the engine room. I borrowed that in my novel Ex Machina and it's been cited in one or two other Trek novels since then.)

Yep, I cited that in To Reign in Hell as well.

 

[CaptainMatt]

Question: Did anyone refer to Chekov by his first name in "Day of the Dove?"

 

[Tribble Herder]

No, just his imaginary brother, Piotr.

 

[Ssosmcin]

And please, if you folks are getting tired of all of the TV Guide clips, let me know and I'll stop.

Are you kidding? I would love a thread devoted to them!

 

[alchemist]

And please, if you folks are getting tired of all of the TV Guide clips, let me know and I'll stop.

Are you kidding? I would love a thread devoted to them!

Really? If you're serious, I'd be happy to oblige!

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

^It's a big ship, and we didn't see all 430 crewmembers in the first season. The simplest explanation is that Chekov was onboard but wasn't yet a bridge officer. (In DC Comics' Who's Who in Star Trek, Allan Asherman postulated that Chekov had served in engineering at the time and had led the resistance to Khan's people's takeover of the engine room. I borrowed that in my novel Ex Machina and it's been cited in one or two other Trek novels since then.)

That was how I tended to rationalize it at the time.


Roddenberry discusses the problem very briefly here, although his account doesn't quite add up. He claims he pointed out the problem when he first saw the script, but he says the director was too far along by then to change it. Are we supposed to understand that they didn't let Roddenberry see the script until after shooting was underway?

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

And please, if you folks are getting tired of all of the TV Guide clips, let me know and I'll stop.

Are you kidding? I would love a thread devoted to them!

Really? If you're serious, I'd be happy to oblige!

As a fan, amateur historian and forum mod, I'd be interested in seeing such a tread too.

 

[Warped9]

I always thought Chekov's first name was...Elmer.

And I can accept Kirk as being about 5'-10", but Shatner?

 

[Harvey]

Are we supposed to understand that they didn't let Roddenberry see the script until after shooting was underway?

Considering that Roddenberry wrote a pair of detailed script memos on September 29-30, 1981 (these are publicly accessible in the Nicholas Meyer papers at the University of Iowa), this is obviously false. And although I can't pause this week to read those memos in detail, from skimming them quickly I don't see any script comments about Chekov being absent from the Enterprise during the first season.

I'd also be happy to see those TV Guide clippings.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I always assumed that Chekov was a redshirt security guard during the events of "Space Seed."

(Since, in TMP, Chekov is chief of security, it makes sense that he would at one time have been a redshirt.)

 

[Nerys Myk]

I always assumed that Chekov was a redshirt security guard during the events of "Space Seed."

(Since, in TMP, Chekov is chief of security, it makes sense that he would at one time have been a redshirt.)

Maybe. Seems to me that Geordi and Worf got their new positions with out prior experience in those areas.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Are we supposed to understand that they didn't let Roddenberry see the script until after shooting was underway?

Considering that Roddenberry wrote a pair of detailed script memos on September 29-30, 1981 (these are publicly accessible in the Nicholas Meyer papers at the University of Iowa), this is obviously false. And although I can't pause this week to read those memos in detail, from skimming them quickly I don't see any script comments about Chekov being absent from the Enterprise during the first season.

Quite creative with the facts, wasn't he? Great Bird of the Fallacy.

 

[Harvey]

To be fair, when Roddenberry says "the young director... was too far along to change his mind at that time," he doesn't say anything specifically about the film being shot at that point. It's possible that Meyer was too deep into pre-production to implement what could have been a major script change. Since the film was set to go before the cameras just five weeks after Roddenberry's initial script memo, I find this believable.

That doesn't account for Roddenberry not actually bringing up the issue in that memo, but, like I said, I've only skimmed the memo, not read it in detail.

 

[Maurice]

And please, if you folks are getting tired of all of the TV Guide clips, let me know and I'll stop.

Are you kidding? I would love a thread devoted to them!

Really? If you're serious, I'd be happy to oblige!

I'd be game to see that!

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

To be fair, when Roddenberry says "the young director... was too far along to change his mind at that time," he doesn't say anything specifically about the film being shot at that point. It's possible that Meyer was too deep into pre-production to implement what could have been a major script change. Since the film was set to go before the cameras just five weeks after Roddenberry's initial script memo, I find this believable.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. To change that would have meant changing the whole situation of Chekov being the one who serves on the Reliant, which means Saavik would have to be something other than the navigator, and they didn't want to put Sulu on Reliant because they still wanted to give him his own ship someday, ...

And Chekov was the natural choice for getting the critter in the ear, wasn't he? Look what they did to him in Mirror Mirror, Day of the Dove, The Deadly Years, even The Voyage Home.

 

[Sindatur]

To be fair, when Roddenberry says "the young director... was too far along to change his mind at that time," he doesn't say anything specifically about the film being shot at that point. It's possible that Meyer was too deep into pre-production to implement what could have been a major script change. Since the film was set to go before the cameras just five weeks after Roddenberry's initial script memo, I find this believable.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. To change that would have meant changing the whole situation of Chekov being the one who serves on the Reliant, which means Saavik would have to be something other than the navigator, and they didn't want to put Sulu on Reliant because they still wanted to give him his own ship someday, ...

And Chekov was the natural choice for getting the critter in the ear, wasn't he? Look what they did to him in Mirror Mirror, Day of the Dove, The Deadly Years, even The Voyage Home.

And let's not forget all of Checkov's experience "screaming like a girl"

 

[Tyberius]

5'11" and 160lbs ?

Something doesn't add up...

 

[alchemist]

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the encouragement to start a new thread about the Star Trek TV Guide clips -- I'll do it! I need to grade some final exams first, so give me a week or so to start. In the meantime, I'll leave you with this one to ponder. I'm sure you can figure out the episode, but would you watch it based on the description?

More details about this later. Stay tuned!