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STAR TREK PHASE II: "The Child" Full Episode Now Released on YouTube

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Disclaimer: I am a participant in STP2, and worked on the pickups for this episode, although I had no idea of the story at the time. I speak for myself here, not Star Trek Phase II.

Thoroughly enjoyed the episode, although I enjoy almost everything Star Trek (draw the line somewhere this side of Nemesis). I can see many of the thoughtful criticisms above, but most did not bother me, and many I did not notice, being caught up in the story. The only ones that were a problem for me was the lighting on the bridge: Why so dark? It wasn't night shift the whole time. Reminded me of the the era of the aforementioned <choke> Nemesis.

And, I can appreciate the esthetic choices that had to be made, but I like my Deltans BALD.

A good episode, somewhere in the middle of the class for STP2.
 
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This is a very impressive fan production. Congratulations to everyone involved.
 
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Just finished watching the episode. Great job!

The only issue for me was that I had to strain to listen sometimes to what Spock and the Deltan Ensign were saying, when they were talking to Kirk (who sounded crystal clear). I imagine these two are just soft spoken people in real life. I wonder if the sound levels could be raised slightly when Spock speaks?

The dark bridge didn't bother me in the slightest. I thought the lighting looked great.
 
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Finally able to settle in and watch from beginning to end. Wonderful episode. Congrats to the Phase 2 cast and crew on another great effort! Looking forward to the next one.
 
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Awesome work again, guys. Such a fantastic growth from the first couple of eps. The constructive criticism so far has been valid, so all I'll add is my hatred of Peter's jumpsuit, and my difficulty understanding the nurse's accent - but I always have problems with thick accents, so it's nothing personal against the actress. It's good to have multicultural crewmembers, but ya gotta understand what they're saying! :)

One thought that kept crawling thru my mind thru the episode - I like your CGI Enterprise WAY better than the one CBS used for the "official" new effects.
 
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I really liked it, I try to ignore the minor issues, like sound is uneven in certain places, some less than great acting by peripheral actors, etc. Good acting by the main actors, and the 2 guest stars did a great job as well. I really like Brandon Stacy as Spock, it helps that he looks more like the original also.

I like this version better than TNG's, the latter just always struck me as cold and a little lifeless, this had more emotional energy.
 
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Personally, I don't see the point of "remaking" this episode. I'd rather see P2 do stories we haven't already seen.

I'm not a fan of the rotating Spocks, especially this latest one. Hopefully an actor will come along who can believably handle the role and will stick around.

Also not a fan of the new uniform variants.

That said, I still watch.
 
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Carcazoid said:
Personally, I don't see the point of "remaking" this episode. I'd rather see P2 do stories we haven't already seen.

I'm not a fan of the rotating Spocks, especially this latest one. Hopefully an actor will come along who can believably handle the role and will stick around.

Also not a fan of the new uniform variants.

That said, I still watch.
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Thank you for the feedback.

More about our decision to "re-make" this episode is here:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=5785987&highlight=Povill#post5785987

Yes, having frequent changes to the actors in any role is frustrating. It's difficult to find actors who will volunteer their own time, travel expenses, and lodging for a couple of weeks, shoot after shoot, year after year. Brandon Stacy is our third Spock. (He had the role in our previous episode "Enemy: Starfleet!") Being Zachary Quinto's stand-in on J.J. Abram's Star Trek movie, he certainly looks the part.

And, yes, the uniform variants that were created for the aborted Phase II series in the late 70s are indeed an acquired taste.
 
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I have just finished watching the episode. Great job! I loved almost everything about it. I'd say it's only second to my favorite episode "World Enough And Time". And that comes from a big fan of the TNG version of "The Child".

I think its main assets are the brilliant performances by Anna Schnaitter and Ayla Cordell. Seriously great choices there. These two made the episode work for me.

Production-wise, I liked the design of the cylindric alien vessel. Not so much the actual CGI, but the concept with the spinning parts and the glowing from inside. Somehow there was something really alien and TOS-y about it.

Also, I loved this shot. There's something real and beautiful about it. And the camera work around the 22 minute mark was nice, too.

I guess what would have improved the episode, is better sound work (having not the first idea about film making myself, I'd think this is really one of the hardest part to get right).

But otherwise I loved this episode! Phase II is still, without a doubt, the best and most ambitious fan production out there. Can't wait for new episodes. Keep up the good work.
 
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John Kelly has become really good as an actor - I like watching him the most besides Bobby Rice since Jefferey Quinn isn't Phase II's Spock anymore.

The production for this episode is very good. The lighting was mention already a few times; I liked it - even on the slightly too dark bridge. The CG-screens for the bio-bed displays are a nice touch, btw.

The final scene in the transporter room was quite moving. I actually started to tear up at one point.
 
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Really looking forward to this. Will check it out later.
Thanks Crawley and crew.
 
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The "jumpsuit/overalls" that Peter is wearing are supposed to denote that he ran to the bridge from off-duty. The director wanted our cast showing up in t-shirts and jeans (ala "go climb a rock"), bathing suits, gym clothes, and other recreational wear. James opted for the "casual uniform" on Peter instead of the jeans on everyone reporting to duty. Maybe the jeans would have been clearer for what the clothing was supposed to denote.
 
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It seems likely that fabric technology will be different in the 23rd Century. Denim is one of the best fabrics we have, absorbent, comfortable and durable, but I suspect we will develop fabrics which can not only do these things, but adjust to temperature, becoming warmer in the cold and cooler when it's hot, so even though the jeans would have been clearer, the choice you made was probably better from a sci fi point of view. I'm not saying jeans will disappear, they are going strong 160 years after Levi Strauss got a patent on the pants he was selling to '49ers in the California Gold Rush, but I do think you may have other options not yet available for recreational wear. When you show uniforms and clothing unlike today's you leave open the possibility that it is made of advanced fabric.
 
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Here's my review of the ep.

I think the production was pretty much top of the line like we've come to expect from PII crew overall. That's been consistent even in the early eps that weren't probably that well written and as well produced and as well funded. And the acting from most of the crew was solid enough to get you through the episode but not much more. I did like the person playing the Deltan role she did a solid job which was tough for a new character in Trek to carry a story.

The pacing in this episode was good for the most part but there were some confusing things in there. Mostly the contrivance about the girl being somehow involved with the cylindrical object even though there was really no way to tell until they fired on the thing. It seemed like a plot point Kirk referred to a lot without any real proof. And why didn't the crew try and investigate the cylinder? Why was it basically ignored for most of the episode like it was a MacGuffin even though it played a role in the plot? It would seem to me to be a priority to the crew to investigate that object in every way including trying to board it to find out something about it other than using the girl. But instead the object was ignored and the story focused on the girl and how it created consecutive disasters a week after they first encountered it.

The guy that plays Sulu needs to go. Sulu was mostly a confident, strong character but never really that arrogant. The guy you have playing him now just comes off as not really caring about things and arrogant. It might was well be a different character than Sulu the way he plays the role. It's hard to have the presence of a Takei though. Jon Cho isn't a fit for the role either in the new movie.

The story on it's own has problems and it's why the TNG story didn't work either. Having a contrived pregnancy with a character nobody knows in this one or really cares about in TNG made it tough to center around in both. This one pulled it off much better. But still overall comparing this to other P2 eps, I would put this near the bottom with B&F eps being the worst. This one did have a lot of positives that puts it above B&F, but the acting just wasn't as strong as needed to carry the episode overall like some of the other P2/TNV releases.
 
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Thanks for the feedback. It's nice to see that people take an interest in our productions.

The only comment I have is a reminder that this pregnancy was to have taken place with a series regular--Lieutenant Ilia--not a stranger. Unfortunately, we couldn't really introduce Ilia in our production, since she basically comes aboard in TMP and says "Hello. It's nice to meet all of you for the very first time." So we had to introduce somebody new (Isel). We briefly considered doing this pregnancy with a different regular--like Uhura--but it's an important plot point that it be a Deltan. So, in the end, it had to be a stranger--which works about as well as having Lt. Mira Romaine taken over by "The Lights of Zetar," I suppose.

I also take issue with the notion that "no one cares about" Deanna Troi in TNG--but that's a different story.
 
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beamMe said:
John Kelly has become really good as an actor - I like watching him the most besides Bobby Rice since Jefferey Quinn isn't Phase II's Spock anymore.
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Isn't Kelly being replaced with a new actor now, too, though?
 
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