The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[Start Wreck]

If there's a good reason for the change (inflammable came first from inflame, then flammable to avoid confusion) then it's fine for it to catch on. "Irregardless" doesn't need to exist; it causes more confusion, not less, because it's one of those "trying to add emphasis by making it the opposite" situations, like when people use double negatives to mean "really negative" or use the word "literally" to mean "not literally".

It ought to be discouraged, not shrugged away by saying "well, language changes!". Not all change is for the better.

 

[Trekker4747]

Is irregardless a real word?

No. It's a confused amalgam of the words irrespective and regardless, and technically would mean the opposite of what's intended.

Used as long ago as 1874: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless

Your link says the very thing he just said, the word is a bastardization of two different words and means, literally, the exact opposite of what the speaker thinks.

 

[22 Stars]

Yeah, there already was a word for this, it was and still is regardless. I vote *fail* for irregardless, pretty stupid.

Like people who are unsure about things who say they are debative about it... not a word, no matter how many stupid people make it up. Just because you can't think of, or don't know the right word for something doesn't mean we should just make a new one up.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

No. It's a confused amalgam of the words irrespective and regardless, and technically would mean the opposite of what's intended.

Used as long ago as 1874: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless

Your link says the very thing he just said, the word is a bastardization of two different words and means, literally, the exact opposite of what the speaker thinks.

I know, but its provenance is so old, why give a shit now?

 

[22 Stars]

Not sure provenance is the right word there either lol, it think etymology is (provenance refers to the history of the ownership of objects.) This is a good example actually, if enough people misuse provenance to mean the 'history of something' it still really doesn't make it correct, just a lot of wrong people who should have been educated better.

But no, irregardless is still considered a bastardization.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Not sure provenance is the right word there either lol, it think etymology is (provenance refers to the history of the ownership of objects.) This is a good example actually, if enough people misuse provenance to mean the 'history of something' it still really doesn't make it correct, just a lot of wrong people who should have been educated better.

But no, irregardless is still considered a bastardization.

Well, at least you should attempt to spell "bastardisation" correctly. It also isn't usually used to describe something that isn't an object.

 

[22 Stars]

Lol thanks. Actually it is but ok. So isn't TNG-R cool!?!

 

[mswood]

I would like to know how I used the word inaccurately. English often gives us multiple terms that can be used all of which has the same meaning.

It's hardly the first double negative to exist in the lexicon.

 

[MikeS]

I think I wandered into an English lesson.

 

[22 Stars]

I would like to know how I used the word inaccurately. English often gives us multiple terms that can be used all of which has the same meaning.

It's hardly the first double negative to exist in the lexicon.

Ok, my last post on this, mswood, the word itself is not 'real' you can't use it accurately, i would suggest just not using it. The real word is regardless, it means the same thing that the fake word 'irregardless' is supposed to mean. It is that simple. The real word is regardless.

Anyhoo, I am looking forward to update on TNG-R Season 1, hopefully will be released by the people working on it soon.

 

[mswood]

By real words you mean "Proper" words in standard english, as even non standard english words are technically still words.

Language is also fluid, where words that were at one time considered non standard have over time been now classified as Standard.

Also society has no set rules that one must always speak, or write using Standard English. It's considered proper in formal writings, formal papers, and in educated situations to speak and write standard english.

For example, I wouldn't use it in my dissertation. I wouldn't use in a formal lecture. But there is a lot of language I wouldn't use in those situations.

But I don't consider an internet forum a place where standard english would be considered the only way to communicate.

Clearly one just needs to check any post of mine, as you will find a host of errors that one wouldn't use in formal situations or in formal published papers and reviews.

 

[Tosk]

Aaaaanyway....

 

[GNDN]

So no word from Okuda, Drexler, etc. on the cropping/reframing of Sins of the Father?

Aaaaanyway....

Hey Tosk, "aaaaanyway" isn't really a proper word, I'm pretty sure you're looking for "anyway"

* runs away... reeeeeaaaalllly fast *

 

[Tosk]

 

[Pindar]

Is there a release date yet for Season 1?

 

[Start Wreck]

"Late Summer or early Fall."

I'm looking forward to screenshots popping up. There's bound to be some more soon!

 

[22 Stars]

Looking forward to it!

 

[FrontierTrek]

Blu-Ray Full 1080p screencaps from the last episode on the sampler, "The Inner Light"...

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnails.php?album=3

Back with more when Season 1 surfaces!

 

[LitmusDragon]

Is it indeterminate mid-year release date yet?

(Excited about the S1 set)

 

[22 Stars]

I really like the detail of the river that has receded due to the drought. Very smart design by Dan Curry which informs the story in a very subtle way.