New Frontier

[RoJoHen]

KRAD generally seems to have a great talent for capturing the essence of pre-existing characters, so yeah, I think I would trust him to write NF stories, too.

 

[Mage]

KRAD generally seems to have a great talent for capturing the essence of pre-existing characters, so yeah, I think I would trust him to write NF stories, too.

Same here! I start reading NF again of KRAD was doing it.

 

[Relayer1]

KRAD generally seems to have a great talent for capturing the essence of pre-existing characters, so yeah, I think I would trust him to write NF stories, too.

Same here! I start reading NF again of KRAD was doing it.

I'd much rather KRAD had his own distinct series.

Wouldn't mind if he included a few plot threads and / or characters though...

Do you think (if it is finished in its own right) New Frontier could be absorbed into the main continuity, like DS9 has been recently ?

 

[F. King Daniel]

I loved New Frontier when it first came out, but after the entire Beings plot (probably a bit before that) I felt things going down hill. Characters felt more like comicbook heroes, dialogue was filled with one-liners, plots were very action-based. And that's oke once in a while, but book after book... It wasn't my thing anymore, and the last NF I read was Stone And Anvil.

That being said, for Peter David and for the fans I hope there will be a decent ending to the series, a true finale. I do feel the series (any series really) deserves that, for the fans and for the creators.

I'm only a few books into NF so far, but "comic book heroes", action-based plots and one-liners are what it's been since the very start.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I'm only a few books into NF so far, but "comic book heroes", action-based plots and one-liners are what it's been since the very start.

The only decrease in quality I ever saw was, seemingly for a time, that the editors had run out of time to give PAD's manuscripts the tweaking they needed. Whether it was due to manuscripts running late, or some kind of agreement that he didn't need much editing? The whole set up with the M'Ress time jump, as explained in "Cold Wars", was annoying, and fairly easily fixed.

But, overall, I still love NF. It's a wonderful, cartoony, campy soap opera set in the 24th century world of "Star Trek".

 

[Csalem]

I like NF because it is similar in tone to TOS, such as the already mentioned 'The Beings' plot where fantastical elements are given a 24th century twist. My only problem recently has been that the cast has gotten too big and they don't get enough time in the novels, though has started to be addressed.

 

[RoJoHen]

Do you think (if it is finished in its own right) New Frontier could be absorbed into the main continuity, like DS9 has been recently ?

I'd prefer if it remained in its own little world. One of the things I like about NF is that I don't have to worry about what's going on in all the other novels to enjoy it. The rest of the series have gotten a little too overwhelming for me. It's the same reason I can't get into comic books...too many cross-title storylines!

 

[SicOne]

I'd be content just reading about what the Excalibur did during the events of Destiny...AFAIK, that hasn't been written about yet, at least in any more detail than the hints offered in Destiny.

 

[Yevetha]

Do you think (if it is finished in its own right) New Frontier could be absorbed into the main continuity, like DS9 has been recently ?

I'd prefer if it remained in its own little world. One of the things I like about NF is that I don't have to worry about what's going on in all the other novels to enjoy it. The rest of the series have gotten a little too overwhelming for me. It's the same reason I can't get into comic books...too many cross-title storylines!

They could stay in their own little are of space despite what happens elswhere, so why not.

 

[Patrick O'Brien]

I have downloaded the omnibus of the first few books to my kindle. Not sure when I'll get to reading it (too many books in the queue). I've enjoyed several of Peter David books already, so I'd guess this is a fun series to read?

 

[RoJoHen]

Do you think (if it is finished in its own right) New Frontier could be absorbed into the main continuity, like DS9 has been recently ?

I'd prefer if it remained in its own little world. One of the things I like about NF is that I don't have to worry about what's going on in all the other novels to enjoy it. The rest of the series have gotten a little too overwhelming for me. It's the same reason I can't get into comic books...too many cross-title storylines!

They could stay in their own little are of space despite what happens elswhere, so why not.

Well, sure, if their stories remain separate, and I don't start having to read other books to understand what's going on, then go for it.

 

[Janos]

The only time I felt a bit lost was when the NF crew dropped in on The Next Generation in "Before Dishonor". My reaction at the time was "WhoTF are these people?". Other than that, there's virtuaully no crossover, besides a few namedrops.

I plan to read Before Dishonor once I'm caught up on pre-Destiny DS9 lit (I'm currently on Warpath). Without any spoilers (please), how prevalent is the NF crew in Before Dishonor?

 

[Janos]

I was wondering if anyone knew if Peter David planned to write anymore New Frontier novels...

I posted the below on this topic in the "rotating trek writers" thread.

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I've been eagerly awaiting PAD's next New Frontier novel. Here's his response in FB about to "Any idea when the next New Frontier offering hits stands?":

I've been asking Pocket Books that very question for two years. They have yet to give me a concrete answer.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

The only time I felt a bit lost was when the NF crew dropped in on The Next Generation in "Before Dishonor". My reaction at the time was "WhoTF are these people?". Other than that, there's virtuaully no crossover, besides a few namedrops.

I plan to read Before Dishonor once I'm caught up on pre-Destiny DS9 lit (I'm currently on Warpath). Without any spoilers (please), how prevalent is the NF crew in Before Dishonor?

Calhoun and the Excalibur show up but thats it.

 

[Janos]

Calhoun and the Excalibur show up but thats it.

Thx. A one page cameo or extended "guest starring" roles?

 

[Cybersnark]

Assuming I'm not getting books mixed up (which has been known to happen): the Excalibur appears as part of a multi-ship group, and Calhoun appears over a viewscreen to exchange some dialogue with Picard.

Really, Admiral Jellico (who I now consider a NF character even if PAD didn't create him) has a bigger role in that particular story.

 

[Yevetha]

Could somebody show me on a map where NF takes place?

 

[captcalhoun]

http://www.geekstir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/trekmap2.jpg

look at the 'Known Space' circle on the right, and i'd say somewhere above the box labelled 'Chart 2'.

(warning, FREAKING HUGE image)

it's hard to be exact since one book referenced Danter crossing into Tholian space in its orbit, but the preponderance of evidence is that Thallonian Space, the Danteri Empire and Xenex are in the Beta Quadrant out past the Romulan Empire.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

http://www.geekstir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/trekmap2.jpg

look at the 'Known Space' circle on the right, and i'd say somewhere above the box labelled 'Chart 2'.

(warning, FREAKING HUGE image)

it's hard to be exact since one book referenced Danter crossing into Tholian space in its orbit, but the preponderance of evidence is that Thallonian Space, the Danteri Empire and Xenex are in the Beta Quadrant out past the Romulan Empire.

To build on what captcalhoun has said:

The first book mentions Deep Space Five as the closest UFP base to Thallonian territory, and given that DS5 is on the Star Charts map (and that proximity to Romulan space works out reasonably well) Thallonian territory has been placed there (I'm assuming above or below the galactic plane).

The SCE story "Small World" confirms, so far as the "mainstream" novel line is concerned (or at least as far as David Mack is concerned), that this is the spot. Mu Arae, the Typhon Expanse, and Romulan space are all mentioned in that story with the understanding that Thallonian and Danteri space are in the general area.

That does leave a few oddities - captcalhoun mentions the Tholian business, although we might justify that by saying "hey, it's the Tholians. If they decide their border is now here, then so it is, as far as they're concerned". That is how they tend to work. Also, Resaurus in SCE: The Demon (said to be in Danter Sector) has a history with the Klingons that's difficult to reconcile. Then again, the Brikar have history with the Klingons too, and if they also have a history with the Dogs of War I see them as having to be reasonably proximate to Thallonian haunts. So maybe the Klingons have an annex off in that direction too? Part of the same expeditionary period that saw them send ships into Breen space, as distant as that is?

I need to update my personal Star Charts. I haven't touched them in years (life got in the way, as it does). Another "edition" will be required at some point...

 

[Yevetha]

So maybe the Klingons have an annex off in that direction too? Part of the same expeditionary period that saw them send ships into Breen space, as distant as that is?

It can be retconed, lets say a Klingon House had been exiled or there were some pilgrims like the ones in Voyager.