Supernatural7x13 "The Slice Girls" spoiler discussion thread

[Dorian Thompson]

New episode tonight, good people. See if you can spot the transformed former guest star. As usual, I'm working late and have to watch later on in the weekend. Oh for the days of watching live. Enjoy.

 

[auntiehill]

Was young "Emma" the same child who played creepy-little sister in "The Benders?"

Not sure how I feel about this episode. There was a lot of set-up, but not much pay-off. Are the Amazons coming back? Considering how easy they were to kill, I don't think they pose much a threat, in the long run.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

Was young "Emma" the same child who played creepy-little sister in "The Benders?"

Yes. Good eye.

Finally home. Will watch the episode online tomorrow when I'm not so dead tired.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Was that a stunt double in Dean's car outside of Lydia's home? The partial face in the mirror didn't look like Jensen.

 

[mswood]

I liked that episode.

Nice role reversal with Sam and Dean. HInts at Bobby, more into how both Sam and Dean are trying to deal with their craptastic life.

And I love, love that Sam rips into Dean about him going to let the girl walk, but doesn't see that it does fit Dean's normal behavior.

One it fits perfectly, one Dean is very tired. But unlike Amy, Emma hadn't killed. SHe was probably going to. THis is like Amy's kid. Dean lets him go, says if he kills then he'll come after him.

What I also like is that Sam immediately misses the point (Though I think he doesn't the real point is just harder for Sam to make, and the lessor point easier to throw in Dean's face). Under normal situations if she made a move to kill Dean, normally that's when all bets are off and he would kill.

Right now I think Sam thinks (and possibly correct) that Dean might not have fought back. That he might be tired enough of the life to just let something kill him.

I think thats a huge fear of Sam's and he actually brought it up, which did surprise me.

I don't think Dean is there yet, but I think he's in a bad enough place to make him question things. Be a little slower....

Really the biggest issue with the episode is that the "Previously on" segment again ruined the ending for the show.

Seriously can they cut that out. It's like you need to skip that segment before watching the episode.

 

[BenRoethig]

This was a complete role reversal with Sam here. With Amy, Sam he knew what he was dealing with, but couldn't see past his friend. With Dean and Emma, no matter the circumstance of her coming into being, no matter what she was, she was still his kid. Its easy to kill something you don't know. Its damn near impossible to kill someone you love no matter what they are.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Really the biggest issue with the episode is that the "Previously on" segment again ruined the ending for the show.

Seriously can they cut that out. It's like you need to skip that segment before watching the episode.

I had DVR issues last night and missed the first ten minutes so what was in the previously on that ruined the ending for you?

 

[Joe Washington]

I'm thinking I'm reaching the end of my rope with the Sam/Dean dramafest with its very little progression towards a resolution.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Really the biggest issue with the episode is that the "Previously on" segment again ruined the ending for the show.

Seriously can they cut that out. It's like you need to skip that segment before watching the episode.

I had DVR issues last night and missed the first ten minutes so what was in the previously on that ruined the ending for you?

I know they recapped Dean/Amy which set up the ending.

 

[mswood]

Not only did it recap the Sam/Amy Dean issue it also gave Dean's reason, he killed her because Sam wasn't capable for it.

Just highlighting well the last 8 minutes of the episode or so.

 

[mswood]

I'm thinking I'm reaching the end of my rope with the Sam/Dean dramafest with its very little progression towards a resolution.

What resolution are you waiting for? Their death is really the only thing that will end how the handle their life and each other. That or their world changing to where their are no more monsters.

If you expect anything short of those two to change their lives to remove the drama it wouldn't happen.

Hell you could argue that even if monsters no longer roamed the world they still would have the drama, because they would finally have down time to actually try and process everything they did, caused and experienced.

Take Dean. THere will never be a time he will be able to let go of what he did to others in hell. It's not going to happen.

Even when he thought Sam was dead and he left the business and cut ties with everyone (as we saw he didn't even keep in contact with Bobby, the next closest thing to family to the man, or Castiel). He played the part, and still drowned his issues with alcohol.

I like that the writers have given that never ending guilt to Dean. It's utterly realistic for the character. Anything else, and the show should just turn to camp 100% of the time.

With Sam, the let him get over his guilt of what his actions accidently set in motion. Feeling his hundreds years of being tortured was punishment enough. Which I love the difference between the two there. One was tortured to the point of that his mind is broken, but his soul or conscious is ok. The other, who became torturer seems to have dealt with being tortured, but not ever gotten over becoming the torturer.

And I love that so far, that broken aspect of Sam's mind isn't going to go away. If anything I expect it to increase. AS long as they keep it a lasting aspect to the character then Sam will never be well either. Both tortured in real world until they die.

And frankly thats the only time it should end for them. If anything the show doesn't treat the matter seriously enough.

They really should only have brief moments, small reprieves, small victories.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Despite Sam killing one of them, I wonder if they will team up with the Winchesters in the fight against the Leviathans.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

No, I can't see them teaming up. Holy semolians, Sam Winchester blew away his niece!! Very enjoyable episode, though. Little Missy Bender has sure grown up. Her eyes are the same, though. Was the blonde detective the actress who used to play Tracy Vedder on "Forever Knight" so many years ago? She looked so familiar. I couldn't place her. She looked a little like Katie Sackhoff, but obviously not her.

Poor Dean. He is used up and ready to give up. And Bobby's definitely still around.

 

[hyzmarca]

Dean wouldn't have killed her even if she was killing people, not even if she was destined to start the apocalypse. He just has different standard for family.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

I agree completely. Dean wouldn't have been able to pull the trigger on his daughter.

 

[hyzmarca]

I really think they should have kept her. While I was watching the showdown I kept yelling "Terminator 2" at the screen even though I had been spoilered already. Dragging around a ruthless teenage amazon would have added some tension, filled one of the open supporting cast slots, and given an opportunity for the character growth that we should have seen with Season 6 DaddyDean.

Not only did it recap the Sam/Amy Dean issue it also gave Dean's reason, he killed her because Sam wasn't capable for it.

But that wasn't the real reason Dean killed her. He did it because he was in a fucked up state of mind and just needed to kill something. She happened to be convenient. In any other season he probably would have let her go.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

You see, that's what I thought. That there was a bit of malevolence to Dean killing her as well as the fact that Sam wouldn't, or couldn't. I dare not voice that at the more vocal and fervent SPN fandom gathering spots.