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With no Space Seed, how can there be a "Khan Movie"?

What so many here seem to misunderstand is no one is saying Trek XII will be another "Wrath of Khan" film, therefore no previous introduction to the character is needed. The story if it involves him, will give us what we need to know in one nice package.

But it will (or would, depending on whether or not it gets made) lack TWOK's themes of revenge, ageing and facing the consequences of one's actions when younger. I think that's why some people, like myself, feel that it will thus be found wanting, when compared to that movie.
 
What so many seem to be missing is the writers are fully capable of writing a story that introduces Khan in a different way that makes the movie different from Space Seed or STII and anything about them.

What so many here seem to misunderstand is no one is saying Trek XII will be another "Wrath of Khan" film, therefore no previous introduction to the character is needed. The story if it involves him, will give us what we need to know in one nice package.
Is there an echo in here? :vulcan:
 
Point taken, Vice Admiral. Still, no one is saying this has to be a bad film found wanting when compared to TWOK. It could do very well for itself, you know.
 
What so many seem to be missing is the writers are fully capable of writing a story that introduces Khan in a different way that makes the movie different from Space Seed or STII and anything about them.

What so many here seem to misunderstand is no one is saying Trek XII will be another "Wrath of Khan" film, therefore no previous introduction to the character is needed. The story if it involves him, will give us what we need to know in one nice package.
Is there an echo in here? :vulcan:


Had to be mentioned a second time as people here were still complaining and getting the wrong idea about this movie. :p
 
Maybe Spock Prime will be onboard, recognize what the ship holds and say, "Shoot it!"
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In a deleted scene from Star Trek XI, the Narada encountered the Botany Bay shortly after wiping out the Klingon fleet and Nero gave the order, "Destroy it, too!"
Unlike the Enterprise, however, the Botany Bay's name wasn't written in large print on her hull...

What so many here seem to misunderstand is no one is saying Trek XII will be another "Wrath of Khan" film, therefore no previous introduction to the character is needed. The story if it involves him, will give us what we need to know in one nice package.

These proposed scenes are nice little packages and ways of dealing with Khan.

It would be quite lazy of the writers to rely on Khan and his development into a maniacal little tyrant for the concept of an entire movie, and while a "previous introduction to the character" might not be needed, most of us have been submersed in the concept of what an Augment is, and will, not might, do. After three episodes and a movie dealing with Augments, it would be just downright boring. It would be like watching the Red Shirt in TOS. You know that whoever stands in the villain's way, is going to get killed, except for the characters integral to the story.

At $10.50 a pop in the smaller metropolitan area theaters, and $12 to $13 in the larger cities, not to mention the fact that you have to pay a chunk of change ($15) for parking in these cities and then add the cost of popcorn and a drink, for each person, even the average trekkie is going to think twice about going to see a fifth interpretation of what an Augment will do.
 
What so many seem to be missing is the writers are fully capable of writing a story that introduces Khan in a different way that makes the movie different from Space Seed or STII and anything about them.

Borg Khan... gotta have it!!! :techman:

RESISTANCE IS INFERIOR
 
Well, the biceps were amazing but....his? :guffaw:

Yes, and the chest. I know some people who got to touch.

Not.Plastic.
It's the sign of a good special effects artist. Fake boobies can feel real to the person who is in awe of what they are touching, but when the chest doesn't move, even to indicate breathing, and the skin gathers to look like hills and valleys, instead of folding over, it's a clear sign that the actor is wearing a prosthetic, or he's dead. Even in Montalban's younger days, he never had a chest like that, and he had many scenes that called for chest exposure.
 
Well, the biceps were amazing but....his? :guffaw:

Yes, and the chest. I know some people who got to touch.

Not.Plastic.
It's the sign of a good special effects artist. Fake boobies can feel real to the person who is in awe of what they are touching, but when the chest doesn't move, even to indicate breathing, and the skin gathers to look like hills and valleys, instead of folding over, it's a clear sign that the actor is wearing a prosthetic, or he's dead. Even in Montalban's younger days, he never had a chest like that, and he had many scenes that called for chest exposure.

They were real, and they were spectacular.


Meyer said Mantalban had a tremendous physique for a man his age. I also remember reading somewhere years ago that Mantalbahn worked out a bit before shooting started to get more bulked up.
His costume was also designed to maximize the look of his build. It enhanced the buff look.
 
Anyone can tell that Montalban had a strong physique when one sees him in his suit in The Naked Gun, which was made around the same time.
 
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