The only thing that was right about the future of Trek pre '09 was JJ Abrams directing, the casting of the younger Spock and the 150 million dollars. Other than that it was a complete disaster, IMO. Orci and Kurzman are great writers who wrote a cool first meeting scenario but they're not Star Trek or sci-fi writers. Had they out sourced and worked with a concept writer they might have had a story to tell without the alternate reality which was the major thing. The ship was ugly, interior and exterior. The staid Pine was wrong as was the bad boy arrogant characterization. I think that was the most offensive. Add to that the Kobiashi Maru, The old Spock (stunt casting), the giant space drill, and I'd rather see Plan Nine from Outer Space.