Laying off Marco to cut costs didn't help. The DS9 Relaunch was his baby with Margaret, AFAIK.
So, What Happened To The DS9 Novels ?
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An... odd... choice of words. Margaret had no involvement with the DS9 post-finale continuity until Marco was laid off and she inherited all his Trek projects. I believe she edited the Millennium trilogy, but that was pre-relaunch.
Yeah, I could have put that a little better.
I thought Margaret assisted him with the DS9 grand plan at times?
Just one year ago, Zero Sum Game ended with the words THE SAGA OF STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE WILL CONTINUE.
What part of THE SAGA OF STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE WILL CONTINUE is unclear? What part of THE SAGA OF STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE WILL CONTINUE indicates that the series has been disbanded?
A strange conclusion to come to, since Sisko was essentially shoe-horned into being a main character of a novel that could just as easily have functioned without him (Rough Beasts of Empire). Looks to me like they went out of their way to include him.
Yeah, I could have put that a little better.
I thought Margaret assisted him with the DS9 grand plan at times?
Nope. It was all Marco until he was laid off.
I stand corrected.
Although I'm not happy with the way the DS9 Relaunch has been sidelined considering its strong start, I am curious to see where things are going.
Although I'm not happy with the way the DS9 Relaunch has been sidelined considering its strong start, I am curious to see where things are going.
Yes, exactly. I still don't understand where people are getting the idea that DS9 as a series is ending. I thought it was pretty clear that ZSG and RBoE were setting up the next stage of the DS9 story. Just because they make big changes to a series, and shift some characters around doesn't mean the series it ending, it just means it's changing. Until we get someone in the know on here saying that the DS9 series is over, or we see something along the lines "The story of Deep Space Nine ends here" in a book, I'm going to continue to believe that the series will continue.
The DS9 relaunch was, by far, the weakest relaunch from the last few years:
the mirror universe story - whose scope did NOT justify the time it wasted;
the ascendants arc, extensively developed, being abruptly dropped;
most characters leaving DS9;
many characters having huge changes in their personality/status, with no development whatsoever;
some characters gaining a personality transplant/acting way out of character in the recent books 'Zero sum game' and 'Rough beasts of empire';
the 'meh' quality of the last DS9 books;
etc.
the mirror universe story - whose scope did NOT justify the time it wasted;
the ascendants arc, extensively developed, being abruptly dropped;
most characters leaving DS9;
many characters having huge changes in their personality/status, with no development whatsoever;
some characters gaining a personality transplant/acting way out of character in the recent books 'Zero sum game' and 'Rough beasts of empire';
the 'meh' quality of the last DS9 books;
etc.
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It's been a long time since any series has been guaranteed to get a book in every single year's publishing schedule. These things ebb and flow based on a lot of factors. If a series isn't on the schedule one year, it could still end up having a trilogy or something on the following year's schedule.
It's a tagline and not especially meaningful. However, I said "for the moment." Of course nothing precludes a novel eventually being published under the DS9 name at some point in the future.
Sisko's appearance amounted to "putting him on a bus," which means putting the character in a sort of stasis: out of the story indefinitely, but in a position from which the character can easily be recalled, as necessary.
Sisko was "Put on the Robinson," while Kira was "Put in a Monestary." By definition, for this to happen, the characters have to appear in the story, so it's not a strange conclusion at all. As you say, the DS9 portion of RBoE was "shoe-horned in" so this could be accomplished, thereby setting the stage for whatever DS9 elements will be included in the upcoming TNG novels.
Sisko and Kira needed to be "Put on a Bus" because, otherwise, they couldn't have been ignored in the TNG novels. Kira, for example, had previously been commander of the station.
From some of DRGIII's comments before he left the boards, it sounds like the longterm plan will be to eventually do a reunion story of some kind.
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I don't think that's true at all. Sisko was hardly put in stasis; he was put into the beginning of a new, evolving story arc, a situation that parallels where he was at the start of "Emissary" -- taken away from what made him happy, beginning a new phase of his career, dealing with depression and uncertainty. And it's absurd to say he was "out of the story" when he was the most prominent DS9 character in RBoE and one of the very few DS9 characters to be featured in Typhon Pact. The story centers on him; if anything, it's the station itself that's been sidelined.
No, that's the opposite of the definition. "Put on a Bus" refers to writing a character out of the story completely, but in a way that leaves them alive and hypothetically able to return. For instance, Dr. Crusher was Put on a Bus at the start of TNG's season 2, disappearing completely but still alive and simply doing another job somewhere else. Then a season later Crusher came back and Pulaski was Put on a Bus, transferred away and never seen again (what TV Tropes calls a Long Bus Trip). You don't have to appear in the story to be Put on a Bus, because your departure can happen offscreen. And once the "Bus" has left, you don't appear again, at least not for some time. That's the whole point.
It doesn't even need to be under the DS9 banner to be a DS9 story. ZSG is (in my mind, at least) a DS9 novel wether it says DS9 or not. Pretty much all of the TV based elements of the novel, Bashir, Dax, Sarina, and the Breen were all introduced in DS9 episodes, and the only non-DS9 character I can remember playing a major role is Pres. Bacco, and she's more or less a franchise wide character who doesn't belong to a specific series.
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread, but isn't 2013 the 20th anniversary of DS9? Barely a little over a year away now...
Perhaps we'll see some titled books then? :/
Perhaps we'll see some titled books then? :/
It sounds as if at least one of David R. George's two forthcoming Typhon Pact novels might continue or at least touch on DS9-related events.
BTW, ZSG is an official part of the DS9 relaunch, as per its final page, and RBoE is connected to it through the use of Vaughn and Kira.
BTW, ZSG is an official part of the DS9 relaunch, as per its final page, and RBoE is connected to it through the use of Vaughn and Kira.
Maybe, but if "Typhon Pact" or "The Next Generation" are outselling novels labelled "Deep Space Nine", then there's no urgency to use "DS9".
Years ago, the DS9 installment of "Double Helix" ended up with the TNG banner, even though each book in the mini-series was originally promoted under its TV series title, just like the previous "Day of Honor" books. But marketing research probably indicated that "TNG" would have much better sales. Similarly, "The Best and the Brightest" came out as "The Next Generation", rather than the original "Starfleet Academy".
Yeah, looks hopeful - might address the Vaughn situation too.
Doesn't address my need for O'Brien, Garak and Bashir (who shouldn't be running around playing at James Bond). Odo has been left in mid arc too...
Fingers crossed !
The cover blurb doesn't. But the cover blurb is not the novel.
And that's the point of an ongoing saga. To keep you coming back for more.
I'm also looking to find out what happened when Taran'atar answers the distress call from the Even Odds crew. Perhaps we'll get that in 2013.
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