But the problem with your theory is that it actually took the physical conflict to snap Spock out of it. You have no idea how long it may have taken with Kirk just taunting him from the other side of a force field.
WTF, Kirk?
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But the problem with your theory is that it actually took the physical conflict to snap Spock out of it. You have no idea how long it may have taken with Kirk just taunting him from the other side of a force field.
Yeah! but it wouldn't kill Kirk!
But what's the point of bringing Spock aboard at all then? Or for that matter any other member of the crew? You have no proof that any other member of the crew would be any more susceptible to taunting than Spock. As a matter of fact, Bones doesn't completely snap out of it until he slugs Sandoval.
Without taking a risk, Kirk sits on the Enterprise until spiraling down into the atmosphere.
Yes, But McCoy isn't way stronger than a human unlike Spock. It is much less likely that McCoy would kill Kirk than Spock now would it? Oh and there are other sicence oficers and enginering officers that arn't human.
I think this is simply a case of Kirk going with who he trusted most to be able to do the job. Nothing more, nothing less.
We have finally reached a place where I'm going to agree with you since you no longer pose an argument and I'm sick and tired of arguing my point that keeps getting denounced (by the way thanks for checking out my profile billj)
You'll find that most disagreements end with the age old "agree to disagree" here on the TrekBBS.
Thanks for the notice I'll remember that.
how true he just had to be different to save his ship
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Well, he is different...he's a starship captain. They are a special breed of person. If I recall correctly, he does succumb to the spores at first and it is only when he comes across a medal (maybe someone could tell me what that is supposed to be...equivalent of a Congressional Medal of Honor maybe) in the combination-locked compartment in his quarters that his memory is jogged and his mind breaks free of the spores' influence.
His sense of duty and commitment is deeply-rooted in his being. At least, I think that was the message the writers were trying to convey.
His sense of duty and commitment is deeply-rooted in his being. At least, I think that was the message the writers were trying to convey.
We never learned what he got that medal for. Perhaps it was for a feat achieved despite being deserted by a bunch of cowards? That would certainly make Kirk doubly angry at his insta-hippie crew, for the brief but required moment. Or then Kirk earned the medal despite once pondering deserting himself?
As for fighting Spock, well, "This Side of Paradise" follows "Amok Time" in stardate order. Kirk would already know how Spock fights - and he might feel he only barely got defeated while fighting without the necessary oxygen (since he now knows McCoy didn't inject him with any). There could be a sound basis for him to think that he can hold his own against Spock this time, the circumstances being otherwise pretty similar (Spock is fighting without the benefit of his usual logic and discipline) but Kirk no longer having the thin air and high temperature disadvantage, and Spock not having the high temperature advantage, never mind the home field effect.
Timo Saloniemi
As for fighting Spock, well, "This Side of Paradise" follows "Amok Time" in stardate order. Kirk would already know how Spock fights - and he might feel he only barely got defeated while fighting without the necessary oxygen (since he now knows McCoy didn't inject him with any). There could be a sound basis for him to think that he can hold his own against Spock this time, the circumstances being otherwise pretty similar (Spock is fighting without the benefit of his usual logic and discipline) but Kirk no longer having the thin air and high temperature disadvantage, and Spock not having the high temperature advantage, never mind the home field effect.
Timo Saloniemi
Don't. Go. There.
This.
The character of Captain Kirk is not supposed to be some kind of ordinary every-man, worried enough about his own safety that he would purposefully select someone weaker than himself for the coming confrontation even though he would quite naturally see Spock as the most useful and trusted ally in his attempt to regain control of his ship and crew.
One should always keep in mind that Star Trek is not a documentary; it is dramatic entertainment. And Kirk is meant to be a larger-than-life hero, a common ingredient in dramatic fiction throughout history and certainly common to almost every contemporary TV drama of Star Trek's time. Arguing that Kirk is behaving irrationally because he doesn't do what an ordinary man would do kind of misses the point.
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Bingo.
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