The Harp was not backwards! Janeway was wrong in Fairhaven

[nacelle]

So i was looking round the Guinness site as im planning a day in Dublin and the Guinness storehouse is open for tours.
Apparently the Guinness harp is round the same way as Tom has it at the start of Fair Haven.
The Guinness harp has always been this way and the Irish symbol harp is the other way round.
The harp in Fair Haven on the front door just before opening credits and in the pub when Janeway says to Tom "Everything is authentic, except for one thing. The harp on the sign. Its backwards!" is the same way as the Guinness harp.
Also when she first comes into the pub during the arm wrestling and talks to Sullivan theres a Guinness poster on the wall behind him.
Leading to the conclusion that this is a pub that serves Guinness and has used its harp on the pub sign to emphisis this.
Tom may or may not have known this when he programmed the pub.
Actually he must have done some research and known this or he wouldnt have put the harp that way round and included the Guinness poster in the program.
I realise i am probably analysing this to death but has anyone else noticed this?

 

[Seven of Five]

I wouldn't know, I'm not Irish. However, the rest of the episode (and Spirit Folk) is totally backwards!

I wasn't adverse to Janeway going to the holodeck for a booty call, but falling in love was a bad choice. And then Irish setting itself was horribly cliche and twee. Bad idea all round really.

 

[spooky spice]

Apparently the Guinness harp is round the same way as Tom has it at the start of Fair Haven.
The Guinness harp has always been this way and the Irish symbol harp is the other way round.

Erm, possibly the back-to-front harp is a Guinness trademark?

I wouldn't know for sure as I'm from Cork and we drink Murphys around here LOL

 

[Ln X]

I didn't really notice. I thought the first Fair Haven episode was good, with Janeway falling in love with a hologram. Quite interesting really, you can tailor make the ideal companion, which is most weird.

 

[The Dominion]

Janeway was wrong most of the time.

 

[DS9forever]

The production staff did a good job, pity those episodes are among the worst Star Trek episodes ever written.

 

[You_Will_Fail]

I liked "Fair Haven", the concept was good.

 

[Kass18]

I just watched "Fair Haven" for the first time last night. Good to see The Captain having more of a personal life, but by way of a hologram romance? Disappointing, she should have known better in the first place. But hey can't blame her for being lonely.

 

[bod]

A harp is a musical instrument, how can any Harp sign be backwards? It can be portrayed any way you like. So Janeway was wrong. Personally, I think she was teasing Paris.

 

[flandry84]

Given the vintage of the automobile(very early 1900's)then thereare several anomalies to be seen(not just a backward harp).
Early 1900's Ireland is still part of the British empire so no green postbox(it wouldbe red) and no shop signs written in Irish.
Methinks the production team followed a postcard image of someplace likeBunratty village(a recreated heritage village)and if so did a reasonably good job ...for what that is.

 

[Judy Waxhorn]

200+ years in the future these distinctions may have been lost... unless you are a serious history professor or research historian.

 

[flandry84]

Please don't misunderstand,I'm not nitpicking.
Full marks to the production team,Fair Haven is a fine film set.But if my assertion about it's inspiration is correct,it is based on an idealistic,tourist-friendly depiction of an Irish village of the 19th-early 20th century.
And of course if this were an invention of Voyagers holodeck then certainlythere would be discepancies.Same goes for that holo version of that wild west town in TNG.