Torchwood: Miracle Day #10 SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by SG-17, Sep 10, 2011.

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Rate episode 10

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  1. SG-17

    SG-17 Commodore Commodore

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    As the title says...

    Rate, discuss, the usual.







    Holy shit that ending.
     
  2. Snick27

    Snick27 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Im sure im the only one here but I hated this. We spend 10 episodes to find out we have this tub of lard in the center of the planet and that giving it Jacks blood can cause the Miracle to happen.

    Forget the fact Jacks blood has nothing to do with why he cant die. Cause Jack can die but Time wont let him stay dead.

    But according to RTD we all can just grab straws and suck Jacks blood and live forever like him.

    So much for Fixed Point.

    Plus i was expecting something more, some twist, some grand. This was just bland and dull.

    But im sure everyone will disagree with me and thats fine.

    This would of made a good 3 episodes story, but for 10 hrs, nah.
     
  3. SG-17

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    Jack's blood should also be a fixed point in time, yes?

    I think that the Blessing made Rex a fixed point because it thought that because Jack's fixed point blood was coming from Rex as well, Rex was also a fixed point.
     
  4. Snick27

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    No has nothing to do with his blood, its his essence.

    Second he dies, time goes Nope , back you go.
     
  5. SG-17

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    His essence? Everything he is is his "essence", blood included. I bet if you cut out his eye and let it sit it would not decompose or change in any way.
     
  6. Snick27

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    Im talking more like his Aura, i just cant put it into words saddly.

    Its nothing physical that keeps him alive its just time cant let him die.
     
  7. Snick27

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    Nothing against you SG-17 but everyone time i see your name i just shed a little tear on how much i miss Stargate.
     
  8. SG-17

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    His immortality has shown to have limits/restrictions. It look him hours to heal from that bomb that was planted inside of him and he didn't heal all at once. He regrew (plus he ages). I think that the residual energy from the Vortex suspended him completely in time. Not just his essence, but every single cell of his body. Now his cells can be destroyed like normal cells but because he was complete when he was made immortal he reverts to his base state. Jack doesn't really know the extent of his immortality, neither does the Doctor. So it isn't far-fetched to think that a separated, but whole part of him would remain a fixed point in time as well. As for the writing, it has never been consistent with Jack. The Stet Radiation should have vaporized him, yet a bomb vaporized half of his body.


    Edit: Yes, I miss Stargate too.
     
  9. SeamusShameless

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    Kinda saw the immortal Rex thing coming when he didn't die after giving up the blood to the Blessing, but still a cool what the fuck ending. I really wish they hadn't killed Esther.
     
  10. stj

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    One good thing: "How much lip stick can you wear?"

    How does throwing someone down that hole kill them? He'll just come out in Shanghai.
     
  11. Nerys Myk

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    Because its a real deep hole? Conditions in the hole might not be conducive to human life?
     
  12. SG-17

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    They wouldn't. Once they reached the core they would stop falling since there is no gravity.
     
  13. Mr. Adventure

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    I've seen gratuitous nudity and gratuitous violence but I think that might be the first time I've thought of an entire series itself as being gratuitous.

    Phase 1. Induce immortality
    Phase 2. ???
    Phase 3. Profit
     
  14. knine

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    Actually, neglecting anything other forces interacting like air resistance, falling down a hole through the center of the Earth would act like simple harmonic oscillator. At the center you'd have enough speed to reach the other side again before turning around and falling back down from where you came. And so on and and so on.
     
  15. knine

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    This series didn't quite live up to the hype, but I still enjoyed it overall. I think they could have done without the whole Gwen's dad thing. Not as good as the last series, but still a billion times better than the crap they dished out the first two series.
     
  16. timothy

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    the show was awesome and ending was fantastic. I am glad ester is still alive with her sisters kids and now rex is imortal as well fantastic ending I am ready for series 5.
     
  17. Professor Zoom

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    Twas shit.

    It's really annoying to have this happen: Hey EVERYONE, we've FOUND the secret bases, let's GO! But, let's take a moment, and have some heart to heart conversation. Sure, sure, this is a major threat run by a shadowy organization with a cliche motive, but, lets talk, let's shake out this tension before going on this mission.

    And then, HEY, we're at the base... let's talk, talk, talk, ALRIGHT, LET'S DO THIS THI--oh, you want to talk some more...ok... ALRIGHT LET's, what? Oh, sure, let's chat some more. OK! NOW, LET'S DO THIS THING....

    AND, then they made the most annoying character immortal? Ugh.

    Oh, and again, they make the CIA look stupid. Hey, we have a mole in here.... everyone, you just go about your business, I'm going to loudly announce we are going to trace the mole, but, you all, just, you know, walk around, stretch, maybe get a cup of coffee, while we figure out which one of you might be the mole.

    Come on.

    I seriously miss the days of fish people joyriding cars in merry old England.
     
  18. Professor Zoom

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    Um. You DO realize they attended ESTHER's funeral. She's dead. Like really really dead.
     
  19. Kelthaz

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    That was just horrible.
     
  20. Mr. Adventure

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    Not as stupid as the guy in Buenos Aires who couldn't think to tell his men to "Grab him!" when Rex was about to undo all their work.