The Trek road not taken

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There have been many moments I wish TPTB had chosen to do something different in Trek. Some big things, some not so big. A couple that still bug me are:


That the Klingon in Yesterday's Enterprise who hails the Ent-D ISN'T Worf. (I read they thought of it too late but Dorn wasn't around or something)

Valeris isn't Saavik in ST VI. I just wish she was, and understand all the reasons she wasn't.

Making ENT a real prequel in look and feel to TOS.

Letting Shatner 'write' and direct ST V. While contractually obligated, I wish they hadn't let him participate in the writing and directing of the same film. One would have been bad, but both killed any momentum the TOS film franchise had after IV was so big.

These are just a few of mine, but I would love to read other people's pet peeves that could have/should have been, but weren't

 

[zar]

Ferengi.

 

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Ferengi.

Huh, so you wanted MORE Ferengi... intersting

 

[Forbin]

Little thing (VERY little): When Leah Brahms told Geordi she was married, I wish she'd said she was gay. It would have been juuust that much less cliche, braver, and more meaningful for the times.

 

[Forbin]

I'd like to see a draft of Yesterday's Enterprise without Guinan. She was only there for the exposition, and I think it would have been more meaningful and more heroic for Picard and Yar if they'd figured out what to do without all the psychic alternate universe mumbo jumbo.

 

[Satyrquaze]

I wish TPTB had taken their gloves off and really gotten their hands dirty with DS9. While it was aurgably the best Star Trek series, they could have gone much further with it.

In a similar vein, I wish TPTB had never created VOY. In anything took the wind out of Star Trek's sails it was Voyager.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Picard dying/remaining Locutus in "The Best of Both Worlds, part II" and Riker taking over as Enterprise captain from that point forward.

 

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I wish TPTB had taken their gloves off and really gotten their hands dirty with DS9. While it was aurgably the best Star Trek series, they could have gone much further with it.

In a similar vein, I wish TPTB had never created VOY. In anything took the wind out of Star Trek's sails it was Voyager.

I have to agree about Voyager. Look up 'Diluting a Franchise' and you'll find a picture of Voyager, or a picture of a TV Guide that shows Voyager on UPN on OPPOSITE DS9..... that was a huge mistake.

 

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Picard dying/remaining Locutus in "The Best of Both Worlds, part II" and Riker taking over as Enterprise captain from that point forward.

That would have been huge. I remember at the time double checking if Patrick's contract had ended or not lol.

 

[22 Stars]

I'd like to see a draft of Yesterday's Enterprise without Guinan. She was only there for the exposition, and I think it would have been more meaningful and more heroic for Picard and Yar if they'd figured out what to do without all the psychic alternate universe mumbo jumbo.

Yeah, that would have been more like a TOS episode and possibly better. I didn't mind as it gave us a further glimpse into her vague abilities...

Little thing (VERY little): When Leah Brahms told Geordi she was married, I wish she'd said she was gay. It would have been juuust that much less cliche, braver, and more meaningful for the times.

That would have worked just fine too! Probably never even came up in the writer's room sadly.

 

[T'Girl]

When Leah Brahms told Geordi she was married, I wish she'd said she was gay.

Geordi: "I want us to have a relationship."
Leah: "I'm gay."
Geordi: "Wow, every time I tell a woman I want a relationship, she tells me she's gay. What are the odds?"
Leah: "Oh, not that steep."

 

[22 Stars]

^ lol subtle!

 

[Dukhat]

That the Klingon in Yesterday's Enterprise who hails the Ent-D ISN'T Worf. (I read they thought of it too late but Dorn wasn't around or something)

Considering that in reality, it's inconceivable that Riker, Data and Geordi would still be serving with Picard during wartime, having Worf be the one attacking them would have been totally contrived. But yes, it would have been fun anyway

Valeris isn't Saavik in ST VI. I just wish she was, and understand all the reasons she wasn't.

Completely agree with you on this one.

Making ENT a real prequel in look and feel to TOS.

While I don't think it would have been necessary to make ENT look like it came right out of the '60's, there could definitely have been more attention paid to making things more primitive. The technology wasn't much different than in an episode of Voyager.

Letting Shatner 'write' and direct ST V. While contractually obligated, I wish they hadn't let him participate in the writing and directing of the same film. One would have been bad, but both killed any momentum the TOS film franchise had after IV was so big.

Quite frankly (and I've mentioned this in another thread somewhere), I wish that TVH had been the TOS crew's final film. It was the perfect ending for them, but then FF had to be made, which required another film after that to put right what that shitty movie got wrong.

These are just a few of mine, but I would love to read other people's pet peeves that could have/should have been, but weren't

I really wish that Star Trek: Phase II had been made instead of TMP. I think it would have made far more sense as a sequel to TOS than TNG did. (But I would still like to have had Star Treks II, III, and IV filmed, which would still have worked out fine if Phase II had been made.)

As I said before, I wish the only TOS films made were II, II, and IV. I wish FF and TUC had never been made.

I wish that TNG had premiered in the mid-'90's instead of 1987, mainly to get rid of Roddenberry's influences on it.

I wish that TNG had truly ended with "All Good Things...," and that none of the four TNG movies had ever been made.

Finally, I wish that UPN had never existed, and that whatever future Trek series existed after DS9 had been syndicated instead of being on a "network." (Voyager might have existed in its original form even if UPN didn't exist, but it almost certainly wouldn't have gone in the direction it did; Enterprise probably wouldn't have existed at all.)

 

[Mysterion]

I would have preferred the folks making TNG to have kept the original origin that was conceived for Data: he was built by an unknown alien race. Would have been much more interesting, IMO.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Making ENT a real prequel in look and feel to TOS.

While I don't think it would have been necessary to make ENT look like it came right out of the '60's, there could definitely have been more attention paid to making things more primitive. The technology wasn't much different than in an episode of Voyager.

Aside from a predominately silver colour scheme in general areas, until its more colourful final season, I couldn't disgree more. The NX-01 sets looked about as much like Voyager as say, the U.S.S. Kelvin bridge does. I don't recall seeing LCARS anywhere aboard Enterprise, and the coloured graphics on touchscreens evoked TOS just enough. If that wasn't enough, they were mixed in with proper buttons and even sliders in some cases... of the kind found on the transporter.

 

[Dukhat]

Aside from a predominately silver colour scheme in general areas, until its more colourful final season, I couldn't disgree more. The NX-01 sets looked about as much like Voyager as say, the U.S.S. Kelvin bridge does. I don't recall seeing LCARS anywhere aboard Enterprise, and the coloured graphics on touchscreens evoked TOS just enough. If that wasn't enough, they were mixed in with proper buttons and even sliders in some cases... of the kind found on the transporter.

I'm not talking about the things you mention. I'm talking about things like phasers, communicators, photon torpedoes, shields, warp drive, etc., all things that, while given buzzword names to make them "different" (i.e. phase pistols, photonic torpedoes, polarizing hull plating, distances to other planets being completely arbitrary, warping with the same speed and effects as the 24th century, etc.), they were pretty much the same as their 24th century counterparts.

I wanted to see nukes. I wanted to see weapons that were not particle-beam-based. I wanted that ship to travel slowly, not zipping around like Voyager did. I wanted the ship to have holes in the hull when it was attacked because there's no magical shields. I wanted communicators that looked like army walkie-talkies, not cellphones.

So, as the OP asked, that's what I wanted.

 

[Atticus]

I wish Jadzia had been in S7 of DS9 so that we'd have had less episodes wasted in that year developing her successor.

I wish VOY had been cast closer to the original bible's image of the characters - ie Tuvok more recognisably an older man to make his being Janeway's mentor more visible.

I wish VOY hadn't resolved the Maquis conflict so quickly, and had had more developing secondary characters.

I wish 7 of 9 hadn't been introduced and Kes had remained.

I wish ENT had gone seven seasons.

I wish the last two TNG movies had been... different.

 

[F. King Daniel]

"Year of Hell" to have ended without a reset button - a wrecked ship, a missing crew, a blind Tuvok and Janeway teetering on the edge would have made for several fantastic follow up stories.

Malcolm getting together with General Hayes in Enterprise after their fist fight.

Enterprise to have a totally different ending - perhaps something tragic involving the "real" ECS Kobayashi Maru.

 

[SteveJRogers]

-I wish everyone involved trimmed the fat out of TMP in terms of all the starring at the ship, V'Ger, etc. I think the movie would be more well regarded without all the "HEY LOOK WE ARE ON THE BIG SCREEN NOW! SEE WHAT WE CAN DO!"

Bottom line, Lucas was able to give a grandiose feel to Star Wars without dragging it all out.

-Granted Roddenberry was the Boss, I wish someone would have just told him NO when it came to what Wesley was for most of his early years on the show. Either that, or give Wesley the Adric sendoff!

 

[Fang66]

That the Klingon in Yesterday's Enterprise who hails the Ent-D ISN'T Worf. (I read they thought of it too late but Dorn wasn't around or something)

Considering that in reality, it's inconceivable that Riker, Data and Geordi would still be serving with Picard during wartime, having Worf be the one attacking them would have been totally contrived. But yes, it would have been fun anyway

Valeris isn't Saavik in ST VI. I just wish she was, and understand all the reasons she wasn't.

Completely agree with you on this one.



While I don't think it would have been necessary to make ENT look like it came right out of the '60's, there could definitely have been more attention paid to making things more primitive. The technology wasn't much different than in an episode of Voyager.

Letting Shatner 'write' and direct ST V. While contractually obligated, I wish they hadn't let him participate in the writing and directing of the same film. One would have been bad, but both killed any momentum the TOS film franchise had after IV was so big.

Quite frankly (and I've mentioned this in another thread somewhere), I wish that TVH had been the TOS crew's final film. It was the perfect ending for them, but then FF had to be made, which required another film after that to put right what that shitty movie got wrong.

These are just a few of mine, but I would love to read other people's pet peeves that could have/should have been, but weren't

I really wish that Star Trek: Phase II had been made instead of TMP. I think it would have made far more sense as a sequel to TOS than TNG did. (But I would still like to have had Star Treks II, III, and IV filmed, which would still have worked out fine if Phase II had been made.)

As I said before, I wish the only TOS films made were II, II, and IV. I wish FF and TUC had never been made.

I wish that TNG had premiered in the mid-'90's instead of 1987, mainly to get rid of Roddenberry's influences on it.

I wish that TNG had truly ended with "All Good Things...," and that none of the four TNG movies had ever been made.

Finally, I wish that UPN had never existed, and that whatever future Trek series existed after DS9 had been syndicated instead of being on a "network." (Voyager might have existed in its original form even if UPN didn't exist, but it almost certainly wouldn't have gone in the direction it did; Enterprise probably wouldn't have existed at all.)

So basically you don't like Star Trek?