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Five Year Mission?

Considering the dismal failure of "That 80's Show", there was no way in hell they were gonna even think of letting "That 70's Show" cross that line.
 
They never gave a year they were in(at least I don't think they did) , so for all we know the 3 years the show ran could have been one year?


M*A*S*H was on CBS from 17 Sept. 1972 to 28 Feb. 1983. The finale was aired in the show's 12th year of production.

The actual armed hostilities of the Korean Conflict lasted from 25 June 1950 to 27 July 1953. So M*A*S*H's production lasted about 4 times as long as the actual combat did.

and how many Christmas episodes were shown in the 12 years the show ran?
 
Although even later, when shows started to have more continuity, they still played fast and loose with time and retconned their own backstories when necessary. Look at M*A*S*H, an 11-year series about a 3-year war. They even got as far forward in their date references as 1953 and then jumped back to 1950/51, although the characters still remembered the former cast members who'd left and retained the development of their personalities and relationships over time.
And on a technical nitpicky note, Hawkeye once mentioned B-52 bombers. The B-52 hadn't been fielded yet during the Korean conflict. But it WAS the quintessential Viet-Nam-era bomber, and MASH was, after all, meant to be an allegory and commentary for Viet Nam.
 
^ Already done when Harry Sullivan rescued the Doctor from a land mine in "Genesis of the Daleks".
 
That reminds me of a quip from some football coach who was asked why he had a "five year plan" to rebuild a losing team. He said "It's because I have a five year contract." I know Hollywood contracts aren't guaranteed, but I wonder if GR or somebody who wrote the opening teaser had a five year commitment to the show. Pure speculation on my part of course.
 
Pure guess, but based on what I've surmised of GR's thinking processes, I suspect he was operating under a theory that sticking around on a show longer than five years is a bad thing. You find yourself fixing things that aren't necessarily broken. Just get those five seasons, start raking in those syndication bucks, and move on to something else.
 
And on a technical nitpicky note, Hawkeye once mentioned B-52 bombers. The B-52 hadn't been fielded yet during the Korean conflict. But it WAS the quintessential Viet-Nam-era bomber, and MASH was, after all, meant to be an allegory and commentary for Viet Nam.

Not to mention the episode where Radar was seen reading a 1969 issue of The Avengers, a comic that didn't debut until 1960.
 
That reminds me of a quip from some football coach who was asked why he had a "five year plan" to rebuild a losing team. He said "It's because I have a five year contract." I know Hollywood contracts aren't guaranteed, but I wonder if GR or somebody who wrote the opening teaser had a five year commitment to the show. Pure speculation on my part of course.

Roddenberry did have a five year development deal with Desilu, but a year of that had already been used up by the time Kirk's narration was written and the show began airing on NBC. It seems more likely (and Inside Star Trek: The Real Story suggests this) that five years was suggested because that would have been golden for syndication.
 
Four years was considered a minimum in order to be assured a syndication deal, because of that magic 100 episode point, five made for a nice bit of insurance, unless your show was insanely popular (for instance, "The Addams Family" only ran two seasons, but still got syndicated), and at the time, Star Trek's overall popularity was still an open question, so the first reaction to the cancellation at the end of the third season was, "well, that's it, we're dead."
 
That reminds me of a quip from some football coach who was asked why he had a "five year plan" to rebuild a losing team. He said "It's because I have a five year contract." I know Hollywood contracts aren't guaranteed, but I wonder if GR or somebody who wrote the opening teaser had a five year commitment to the show. Pure speculation on my part of course.

Well, here's Roddenberry's original offering...

Gene Roddenberry said:
This is the adventure of the United Space Ship Enterprise. Assigned a five year galaxy patrol, the bold crew of the giant starship explores the excitement of strange new worlds, uncharted civilizations, and exotic people. These are its voyages and its adventures.
 
I always assumed "5 year mission" meant that Kirk himself was assigned to the Enterprise for 5 years, along with his hand-picked crew. Then at the end of the 5 years, the Enterprise returned to port, was overhauled, and given to another Captain and crew. That is basically what happened with Pike's crew, and Decker and Spock afterward, no?
 
I always assumed "5 year mission" meant that Kirk himself was assigned to the Enterprise for 5 years, along with his hand-picked crew. Then at the end of the 5 years, the Enterprise returned to port, was overhauled, and given to another Captain and crew. That is basically what happened with Pike's crew, and Decker and Spock afterward, no?

We know that Pike was the Enterprise captain before Kirk and commanded the ship for around a dozen years before Kirk did, with Spock as a member of his crew for most of that time, so that doesn't apply there. And I don't know what you mean by "Decker and Spock" in this context, since Will Decker and Spock were together on the Enterprise for no more than a day and a half.

There's simply no reason to believe there were any 5-year missions other than the one in TOS. Like I said, a single example is not evidence of a recurring pattern. Different "missions" could range in duration from a week to a decade depending on their specific parameters. For instance, the Enterprise's trip to the edge of the galaxy in the second pilot was most likely a separate mission from the 5-year tour, because the ship clearly underwent a major overhaul and rebuild between the second pilot and the first season. So that would've been a specific mission of probably a few months' duration -- travel to the edge of the galaxy and probe beyond it, then return and report -- followed by a refit, followed by a general exploration/frontier-patrol tour with an expected duration of 5 years.
 
Didn't the FX for the second (and first) pilot get re-used in later episodes? Wouldn't that suggest a "transformable"/"configurable" ship instead of a ship that underwent a rebuild/modification under Kirk's command?
 
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