What unseen parts of the ship do you wish we saw?

[A.V.I.A.F.]

Of the big seven hero performers, I think the only ones living quarters we never saw was Sulu's. Obviously it would have been a redress of the standard quarters (usually Kirk's), still the way the quarter were decorated would have said something about Sulu himself.

Fabulous?
Armor?
Swords?
Ancient Japanese?
Lot's of plants?
Disco ball?

.

Perhaps these might have been part of his decor and hence why the censors forbade us seeing the interior of his quarters (repressive times you know).

 

[Captain Robert April]

some sort of navigation area or chart room.

In The Changeling.

That was Auxiliary Control.

 

[Jonas Grumby]

...still the way the quarter were decorated would have said something about Sulu himself.

Fabulous?
Armor?
Swords?
Ancient Japanese?
Lot's of plants?
Disco ball?

All of the above.

Oddly enough, he also had this poster on his wall:



Our Sulu was a man of many and varied tastes!

 

[MHT1138]

Of the big seven hero performers, I think the only ones living quarters we never saw was Sulu's. Obviously it would have been a redress of the standard quarters (usually Kirk's), still the way the quarter were decorated would have said something about Sulu himself.

Fabulous?
Armor?
Swords?
Ancient Japanese?
Lot's of plants?
Disco ball?

.

I thought we saw Sulu's quarters in the Man Trap, the first episode. If it wasn't Sulu's whose was it? Didn't it have a lot of plants in it? I don't have the dvds, so someone else is going to have to look it up.
Thanks

 

[Timewalker]

Perhaps these might have been part of his decor and hence why the censors forbade us seeing the interior of his quarters (repressive times you know).

I really wish that people would get over this Sulu-is-gay nonsense. Just because George Takei is gay, that doesn't mean Sulu was. He was very definitely shown to be attracted to women.

@MHT1138: Yes, those were Sulu's quarters. It was Chekov whose quarters we never saw.

 

[Doug Otte]

I thought we saw Sulu's quarters in the Man Trap, the first episode. If it wasn't Sulu's whose was it? Didn't it have a lot of plants in it? I don't have the dvds, so someone else is going to have to look it up.
Thanks

Nope. It was the botany lab.

Doug

 

[sbk1234]

Perhaps these might have been part of his decor and hence why the censors forbade us seeing the interior of his quarters (repressive times you know).

I really wish that people would get over this Sulu-is-gay nonsense. Just because George Takei is gay, that doesn't mean Sulu was. He was very definitely shown to be attracted to women.

I guess that's why they call it "acting."

 

[A.V.I.A.F.]

Perhaps these might have been part of his decor and hence why the censors forbade us seeing the interior of his quarters (repressive times you know).

I really wish that people would get over this Sulu-is-gay nonsense. Just because George Takei is gay, that doesn't mean Sulu was. He was very definitely shown to be attracted to women.

I guess that's why they call it "acting."

Lean, toned, oiled up torso...check.
Perfect poise...check
Well-maintained and whitened teeth...check.
Thrusting a phallic object at two other men with a lust-filled gaze...check

You see nothing homo-erotic about this?

 

[Warped9]

I really wish that people would get over this Sulu-is-gay nonsense. Just because George Takei is gay, that doesn't mean Sulu was. He was very definitely shown to be attracted to women.

I guess that's why they call it "acting."

Lean, toned, oiled up torso...check.
Perfect poise...check
Well-maintained and whitened teeth...check.
Thrusting a phallic object at two other men with a lust-filled gaze...check

You see nothing homo-erotic about this?

Only if you're looking for it given the virus the crew was contracting not only screwed with their inhibitions but also raised their body temperatures so that they were all perspiring in a room temperature environment.

The only crew's quarters I recall us seeing were Kirk's, Spock's, McCoy's, Scotty's, Uhura's, Rand's, Garrovick's, McGiver's and Anne Mulhall's.

 

[A.V.I.A.F.]

I guess that's why they call it "acting."

Lean, toned, oiled up torso...check.
Perfect poise...check
Well-maintained and whitened teeth...check.
Thrusting a phallic object at two other men with a lust-filled gaze...check

You see nothing homo-erotic about this?

Only if you're looking for it given the virus the crew was contracting not only screwed with their inhibitions but also raised their body temperatures so that they were all perspiring in a room temperature environment.

The only crew's quarters I recall us seeing were Kirk's, Spock's, McCoy's, Scotty's, Uhura's, Rand's, Garrovick's, McGiver's and Anne Mulhall's.

True, that it is never explicity stated that Sulu is gay, but he could have been gay. Why not? Virtually every other disenfranchised non-hegemonic group was represented on the Enterprise; why not gays. I am not a fan of any of the other series but I do vaguely remember a TNG episode where Riker meets up with a race of people who are androgynous. One of these people shows a tendency to what we might define as a heterosexual female gender and sexual identity and consequently she develops a thing for Riker. The episode ends with this character being "retrained" as non-androgeny is viewed in their culture as deviant. I think this is the closest GR came to acknowledging the oppression of those who do not share the dominant gender and sexual identities.

 

[Green Shirt]

I really wish that people would get over this Sulu-is-gay nonsense. Just because George Takei is gay, that doesn't mean Sulu was. He was very definitely shown to be attracted to women.

Well, in The Way to Eden, when the hippie chick was coming on to him he did say "How do you know what I want?"

 

[Wingsley]

^ Sulu could be gay, or straight, or bi, or maybe he was just "taken".

 

[Mysterion]

There was an implication of the bathroom in "Elaan of Troyius".

Doesn't count.

Go relieve yourself in an "implied" bathroom and see how that works out for you.

 

[Warped9]

Sulu looked pretty happy when one of McCoy's chorus girls from "Shore Leave" hung on his arm.

Add to that the simple fact that as forward as GR and company like to try to be with women and minorities you can bet your ass none of them thought, "Hey, while we're at it let's try to slip in a gay character under the radar." Not freakin' likely. Some films could pull that off, but no way was it going to happen in television in that era.

Ergo: the character as Gene Roddenberry conceived him was most certainly not gay or even remotely considered to be so. And George Takei, knowing well the climate of society at the time, certainly didn't portray him as anything other than straight.

Hollywood insiders could well tolerate a gay actor, but everyone knew that the censors and mainstream society would never accept a gay character on prime time network television. No one would have even consider trying that then.

 

[A.V.I.A.F.]

Sulu looked pretty happy when one of McCoy's chorus girls from "Shore Leave" hung on his arm.

He might have just liked the way her outfit complemented his.

Add to that the simple fact that as forward as GR and company like to try to be with women and minorities you can bet your ass none of them thought, "Hey, while we're at it let's try to slip in a gay character under the radar." Not freakin' likely. Some films could pull that off, but no way was it going to happen in television in that era.

Ergo: the character as Gene Roddenberry conceived him was most certainly not gay or even remotely considered to be so. And George Takei, knowing well the climate of society at the time, certainly didn't portray him as anything other than straight.

Hollywood insiders could well tolerate a gay actor, but everyone knew that the censors and mainstream society would never accept a gay character on prime time network television. No one would have even consider trying that then.

Very true, but maybe Sulu wasn't meant to be explicitly gay. I still think it might have been left slightly open to interpretation. After all, every major character (except Sulu) had at least one episode where he/she had a love interest (however brief and relatively tame). Just saying, something to think about.

 

[Warped9]

Sulu looked pretty happy when one of McCoy's chorus girls from "Shore Leave" hung on his arm.

He might have just liked the way her outfit complemented his.

Add to that the simple fact that as forward as GR and company like to try to be with women and minorities you can bet your ass none of them thought, "Hey, while we're at it let's try to slip in a gay character under the radar." Not freakin' likely. Some films could pull that off, but no way was it going to happen in television in that era.

Ergo: the character as Gene Roddenberry conceived him was most certainly not gay or even remotely considered to be so. And George Takei, knowing well the climate of society at the time, certainly didn't portray him as anything other than straight.

Hollywood insiders could well tolerate a gay actor, but everyone knew that the censors and mainstream society would never accept a gay character on prime time network television. No one would have even consider trying that then.

Very true, but maybe Sulu wasn't meant to be explicitly gay. I still think it might have been left slightly open to interpretation. After all, every major character (except Sulu) had at least one episode where he/she had a love interest (however brief and relatively tame). Just saying, something to think about.

Whatever. It was accepted as it was meant to for years upon years. Nothing else to think about...except for those who like to be revisionist about every freakin' little thing.

If they want to make nuSulu then they can do whatever the fuck they please since it's a shitty reboot anyway. But there was absolutely nothing, no subtext or whatever, to even suggest that TOS' Sulu was gay.

 

[A.V.I.A.F.]

Sulu looked pretty happy when one of McCoy's chorus girls from "Shore Leave" hung on his arm.

He might have just liked the way her outfit complemented his.

Add to that the simple fact that as forward as GR and company like to try to be with women and minorities you can bet your ass none of them thought, "Hey, while we're at it let's try to slip in a gay character under the radar." Not freakin' likely. Some films could pull that off, but no way was it going to happen in television in that era.

Ergo: the character as Gene Roddenberry conceived him was most certainly not gay or even remotely considered to be so. And George Takei, knowing well the climate of society at the time, certainly didn't portray him as anything other than straight.

Hollywood insiders could well tolerate a gay actor, but everyone knew that the censors and mainstream society would never accept a gay character on prime time network television. No one would have even consider trying that then.

Very true, but maybe Sulu wasn't meant to be explicitly gay. I still think it might have been left slightly open to interpretation. After all, every major character (except Sulu) had at least one episode where he/she had a love interest (however brief and relatively tame). Just saying, something to think about.

Whatever. It was accepted as it was meant to for years upon years. Nothing else to think about...except for those who like to be revisionist about every freakin' little thing.

If they want to make nuSulu then they can do whatever the fuck they please since it's a shitty reboot anyway. But there was absolutely nothing, no subtext or whatever, to even suggest that TOS' Sulu was gay.

Ok, ok...he was straight! I forgot, in Mirror, Mirror he really wanted to get his freak on with Uhura. But, that was an alternate universe where everything was kind of the opposite so....nevermind.

 

[sbk1234]

Remember the original topic?
I'd like to have seen the stairway access to the bridge.

 

[Green Shirt]

Remember the original topic?

Well, body parts could technically be considered part of the ship.

 

[MHT1138]

Okay guys, I'm still not clear about whether or not we saw a botany lab or Sulu's quarters in The Man Trap. I really thought Rand visited Sulu in his quarters.