Bad news for 2012
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Because otherwise there would have been an 18 month gap between season 6 in spring 2011 and season 7 in autumn 2012 - just like the gap between the two Colin Baker seasons, and we know how well that went down.
So, the Beeb decided "hey, no, let's not go through that shit again, we'll split season 6 so there's never more than a year between premieres even though we're moving studios and can't film in autumn like we normally do - the fans will love us for that, right? So long as we at least have the sense to announce it properly at the right time- Danny said WHAT? Fuck. We're boned either way now... Um, tell 'em it was Moffat's idea so he could write some more Sherlock. The fans all love him, right?"
Truth be told, most TV shows in the United States that only have a 13 episode run don't have a mid-season break. I know for a fact that "Breaking Bad" & "Mad Men" don't break for any reason. FX, AMC and most cable networks with 13 episode seasons just show them all at once over 13 weeks. I mean, it's worked out really well for them so I don't know why the BBC wouldn't follow suit.
This reminds me of Stargate and how scifi would schedule it
-Start the season around July
-End in October(Mid season cliffhanger)
Over in the U.K some stations would start the season and go right to end of the season. This would cause the U.K to know what happens in the season finale.
-In the US the season starts up again, picking up from the mid season cliffhanger. I think they started up again in January. Can't remember it's been a long time.
-Start the season around July
-End in October(Mid season cliffhanger)
Over in the U.K some stations would start the season and go right to end of the season. This would cause the U.K to know what happens in the season finale.
-In the US the season starts up again, picking up from the mid season cliffhanger. I think they started up again in January. Can't remember it's been a long time.
I don't mind the concept of a split season. The execution, however, has been lacking; "A Good Man" doesn't work in the way that other series' mid-season finales work. So I'd hope that Moffat learns how to structure a split season for season seven.
You speak as though these are people with real power over your life or something.
Gasp! Shock! The executive producer of a television program said that he's not experiencing major back-stage problems!
Because, of course, showbiz rumors are reliable. (Weren't there rumors that Willis would be fired last year for some reason?)
Your point being? Turnover and budget restructures are a reality of television production, especially when you're not operating on a commercial network. None of this is an indication of backstage problems.
I don't think he's saying there's some "well-functioning plan." He's saying not to freak out because nothing's going wrong. There's a difference.
I really don't see how a split season is any worse than waiting ten months between seasons.
Doesn't look like Moffat is happy with them at the minute...
This from Neil Gaiman
http://twitter.com/#!/neilhimself/statuses/81438115205623808
then this reply from Steven Moffat
http://twitter.com/#!/steven_moffat/status/81625752746983425
Seems like there's more going on here. I wouldn't be happy either to find someone had let a cat out of the bag then laid blame at your feet.
This from Neil Gaiman
http://twitter.com/#!/neilhimself/statuses/81438115205623808
then this reply from Steven Moffat
http://twitter.com/#!/steven_moffat/status/81625752746983425
Seems like there's more going on here. I wouldn't be happy either to find someone had let a cat out of the bag then laid blame at your feet.
Count me in as well, I much prefer a 13 episode run, and don't mind watiing ten months for the whole shebang to start again.
What the fuck is going on with the BBC/Moffat etc? I realise we don't know the whole story but realistically the BBC need Moffat a darn sight more then Moffat needs the BBC. I just wish someone would make an official announcement rather than pussyfooting around on the BBC news or bloody Twitter!
I cant blame Moffet for being annoyed with the BBC news page stating its basically his fault that Dr who will be taking a break due to his involvement with Sherlock....assuming its not true.....as Moffet has stated in his tweet.
The plot thickens.......But if i did not know any better the conspiracy nut in me would say this was all a interactive story Moffet designed to keep the Whovians on the Internet busy until the shows returned this coming winter.
The plot thickens.......But if i did not know any better the conspiracy nut in me would say this was all a interactive story Moffet designed to keep the Whovians on the Internet busy until the shows returned this coming winter.
I really hope thats the case. I'd hate to think that theres a dange rof Moffet telling the BBC to get stuffed and quitting.
And then a user named Darren Waters asked him, "what's unbelievable? That BBC News quoted the BBC One controller??" To which Moffat replied, "Out of context and not being clear that he was joking."
In other words, Moffat is pissed at BBC News, not at BBC One.
No, there isn't. The BBC One controller was, according to Moffat, joking, and BBC News misrepresented the situation. Jumping to an assumption that there's a major rift between the BBC management and Moffat on the basis of a Tweet is exactly how overly-dramatic, inaccurate rumors get started.
I'm always doubtful of people who claim something has been taken "out of context" and then fail to put it in the "correct" context.
Ultimately the series budgetary/scheduling issues are the responsibility of three people (one of whom has already jumped ship), so he's never going to say anything other than everything's fine and going to plan, is he?
Depends if he's that stupid - he does that, all the anniversary plans are gone, no showrunner, a new one would need time to prep - gap year...
And he'd get the blame.
This exactly. Ever since Who came back in 2005, we've had March/April to June/July seasons with a 10-month gap between (aside from the Specials), so that is what we're used to, and that's fine because at least we get a completed season in one run. Now they're screwing with that format for seemingly no reason, and talking about a reduced season in 2012. It's ridiculous and needless. As the old adage states; if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I don't buy the "time to prep" argument. I didn't buy it three years ago, I don't buy it now. American shows swap showrunners the way people change their socks, and they carry on just fine. If Moffat walked, the production staff is still in place, and the BBC would need only to hire a writer/producer to take his place. The main difference, I suppose, is that American shows have a writers room and British shows don't, but I don't see why that would demand a production break while a new showrunner got up to speed.
That's true now; three years ago, they lost a big chunk of production staff, needed to recast, and needed to rebuild the TARDIS set (both because it was falling apart and for HD).
Putting the finished Episodes to one side (since people's enjoyment of them is entirely subjective) and concentrating on the Production side of the equation; the one thing Wenger and Willis have shown is is that you can't just hire just anybody to make the show.
You need someone on the ground making sure the show is getting made on schedule (and not hiring their boyfriend to direct a couple of episodes abroad so you can fit in a holiday) and someone who can manage the Budget responsibly and make the deals needed to keep the ship on course. (As opposed to jumping ship for a new job at the first opportunity.*)
So far the only thing the "Private Eye" article seems to have got wrong is that there would be just Specials in 2012, but I certainly wouldn't discount the idea that that was something which was discussed as one point before deciding to split Series 7 over 2012/2013 instead.
*Assuming he wasn't pushed overboard...
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