Anti British and Anti French views
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Don't worry, Switzerland would never join.
Yeah, that would be dull, but I would like to live where ever I choose, and the same for all others, with out fear of whatever...
To quote John Lennon, a very wise man.
"I'm a citizen of the world."
He was killed before I was born, so I know these ideals I believe in, are older than me.
To quote John Lennon, a very wise man.
"I'm a citizen of the world."
He was killed before I was born, so I know these ideals I believe in, are older than me.
That's what I was going to say. What will I do if you're all like me, how will I tease you ? *worried*
Actually, that's my bread and butter 'when I work'.
I've joined the MU before, I've been hired to write/record/teach confidence and play live ect... I'm a musician, that is what I do.
He just had a bigger audience. Lol.
I think some of how we perceive other nationalities is not so much based on what we know of them rather what we hear that their government is doing.
The EU has beeen mentioned previously in this thread and yes whilst the UK is the most euro-sceptic of the nations. It should be noted than even in the more pro EU nations when the people have a say via referrendum they tend to vote no even in France. So EU sceptisim isn't solely a British thing. The issue with the EU is that it has either lost touch with what the citizens want or doesn't care and the political elite keep moving forward with what they want.Though perhaps part of the issue with the UK and the EU is DeGaulle blocked the UK's entry into the EEC. Perhaps my fellow Europeans can help clarify if I'm right or wrong but mainland Europe is more to the left on the political spectrum whilst the UK leans more to the right.
The EU has beeen mentioned previously in this thread and yes whilst the UK is the most euro-sceptic of the nations. It should be noted than even in the more pro EU nations when the people have a say via referrendum they tend to vote no even in France. So EU sceptisim isn't solely a British thing. The issue with the EU is that it has either lost touch with what the citizens want or doesn't care and the political elite keep moving forward with what they want.Though perhaps part of the issue with the UK and the EU is DeGaulle blocked the UK's entry into the EEC. Perhaps my fellow Europeans can help clarify if I'm right or wrong but mainland Europe is more to the left on the political spectrum whilst the UK leans more to the right.
being British isn't about rights and laws.
it's about tolerance and fair play, keepnig a stiff upper lip in a crisis and backing the underdog.
that's the British. oh, and having a damn good sense of humour.
it's about tolerance and fair play, keepnig a stiff upper lip in a crisis and backing the underdog.
that's the British. oh, and having a damn good sense of humour.
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No they waver from side to side on both sides of la Manche.
de Gaulle is interesting though. He never forgave the UK for rescuing France. He was perfectly happy with the Americans doing it and the Germans were totally forgiven for their bad manners but all his long life he could never get over the bitterness of that assistance from Britain. You could say he found it gaulling (I crack myself up sometimes). He got away with blocking the UK from joining the EC for so long because he was so powerful and because the anti-British sentiment was not beating in his heart alone, shall we say.
de Gaulle is interesting though. He never forgave the UK for rescuing France. He was perfectly happy with the Americans doing it and the Germans were totally forgiven for their bad manners but all his long life he could never get over the bitterness of that assistance from Britain. You could say he found it gaulling (I crack myself up sometimes). He got away with blocking the UK from joining the EC for so long because he was so powerful and because the anti-British sentiment was not beating in his heart alone, shall we say.
There was no anti-French feelings here when we won the 2012 Olympic bid, now have never been to France, I don't know how that went over the Channel, but we sure as heck cried to FIFAwhen we couldn't use all our new expensive stadiums for the World Cup.
Have you been drinking a lot of coffee?
That's an odd perception. The EU consists of so many different countries with different traditions and different political landscapes that it's impossible to tell in what direction it leans, politically. Also, what timeframe are we talking about here?
Sometimes, there are some overarching trends but they usually do also occur in Britain, like the more or less recent swing towards Conservative governments and the rise of right-wing populist parties disguised as EU skeptic.
Yes, and there was such a backlash to the influx of new eastern European immigrants that when Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU 3 years later, the UK put restrictions on their citizens going to the UK. Also, your point is rather undermined by the fact that the UK is the only country in the EU that refuses to join the Schengen area, in part because of the possibility of illegal migrants making their way into the UK (which is rather annoying as Ireland wants to join but we can't because it would mean border controls for Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK).
Sticking your fingers in your ears and acting oblivious doesn't make the problem go away. Just because you don't support the BNP doesn't mean that nobody does and, sadly, enough did to get Nick Griffin elected to the European Parliament. Nick Griffin isn't the only racist in Britain, and he's not the only person there that has a problem with foreign migrants, not by a long shot. Remember, Gillian Duffy was a Labour voter that had concerns about immigration, you can be damn sure that there's plenty more like her that support Labour and the other two main parties.
Your claim that the baggage of national identity died out in the UK decades ago is absurd, demonstrably false (I've been a very, very minor victim of it) and only serves to make the wise iguana look even more right.
And the Swiss will win too, what with their superior knife technology. They've been waiting centuries to finally have a reason to show off their mad knife skills.In fact, the next World War will be everyone else against Switzerland.
Bof off I say lol... Dwell on the negative and that's what you get, P'ed off B'ing.
So all because their right to be facist exists, makes my right to be me both right and acording to you, adverse.
I never said that doesn't happen though, I said the BNP is what happens when you neglect areas. - Gosh you're wrong though, a racist incident doesn't mean the UK's racist.
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Here's an idea: Don't criticise other countries for their failings and then airbrush them out of your own.
Britain has tensions around the issue of nationality, just like France, Germany, Italy, Ireland and even Switzerland. Ignoring those problems wont fix them. Go and sort out the problem in your country before you dare to act all high and mighty about others.
Does that sound fair?
I never said that it was, I just pointed out that the problems of nationality have not been sorted out in the UK yet.
