This is the post in question:
How anyone can take umbrage with it is beyond my understanding.
How anyone can take umbrage with it is beyond my understanding.
Anti British and Anti French views
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Usually right, maybe, but not that time. I digress. - People who are anti-British and/or anti-French, who don't mean it as witty banter, but for reason of hatred, are stupid people, this of course, goes with out saying.
Sean, you're right, America as a whole is multicultrual, but from personal experiences in the North East region, in Philadelphia and New Jersey, I was adverised not to buy certain hats and sneakers, because quite frankily, I'm a white guy... That, where I'm from, is just a no no.
Sean, you're right, America as a whole is multicultrual, but from personal experiences in the North East region, in Philadelphia and New Jersey, I was adverised not to buy certain hats and sneakers, because quite frankily, I'm a white guy... That, where I'm from, is just a no no.
I don't know what to say anymore
Neither do I, and I really wanted to say something clever.
Having a clever opponent often helps to give the best of yourself...
Oui, so reading further into Iguana's post, maybe he had the right idea, but was wrong about the time frame, he said;
'While European countries are not as multicultural as the US, we are quickly reaching the point when nationality doesn't mean anything else beyond, well, being a citizen of a nation, without the baggage of ethical nationalism and xenophobia of the past.'
Such baggage on nationality sort of died out in the UK in the 1990s, maybe he's saying that Germany, Italy... Are working towards what's already established here.
'While European countries are not as multicultural as the US, we are quickly reaching the point when nationality doesn't mean anything else beyond, well, being a citizen of a nation, without the baggage of ethical nationalism and xenophobia of the past.'
Such baggage on nationality sort of died out in the UK in the 1990s, maybe he's saying that Germany, Italy... Are working towards what's already established here.
Plus WWII was just a remake of WI. Nothing to really get bent out of shape over.
We don't know if he has nice legs and if he looks good in a fireman's uniform.
Around this time five year ago, I was in England when some teenagers threatened me because they thought I was Polish. That was a funny evening.
Sure, such opinions are in the minority in the UK, but you'd have to be blind to think that ethnicity and nationality don't matter to many people there. You just have to look at the ever-increasing vote for the BNP to realise that Britain still has serious problems to do with multiculturalism. Hell, one of the biggest news incidents in the UK last year was Gillian Duffy's famous comment asking where the eastern Europeans are "flocking from".
Can we say to someone "you have a nice brain" ?
That's more true of some places than of others. To use just the Baltimore metropolitan area as an example, there are neighborhoods that are strictly black or white, and there are neighborhoods that are a healthy (IMHO) mix of both.
I wonder where iBender pulls his opinions from.
In all honestly from my experience (Western) Germany is probably the most liberal, open-minded and relaxed of the 4 big EU countries. It surely has learned its lesson after all the shit it did so many years ago. If I have the choice between liberal, crazy Berlin headed by a gay mayor, full of (affordable) culture/excitement on the one hand and commercialized, boring London on the other hand I know which city to choose.
The notion that the UK has more equality than France, Germany or Italy is completely absurd and on a sociological level a case can even be made for the UK being the least egalitarian society among those 4 because of how elites are seen.
Atleast we had Polish people... the UK was one of the only EU member countries(Not the only one.) To allow Eastern European migrants to live and work in their country, OTHER countries in the EU demanded that they wait acouple of years after joing the EU before they would let them do that...
Around this time five year ago, I was in England when some teenagers threatened me because they thought I was Polish. That was a funny evening.
Sure, such opinions are in the minority in the UK, but you'd have to be blind to think that ethnicity and nationality don't matter to many people there. You just have to look at the ever-increasing vote for the BNP to realise that Britain still has serious problems to do with multiculturalism. Hell, one of the biggest news incidents in the UK last year was Gillian Duffy's famous comment asking where the eastern Europeans are "flocking from".
I don't care what the BNP do, their leader took the P when he didn't like what he saw in London after comming to London and appearing on televison for a debate... He said that London was no longer British... If he had a fatal heart attack tomorrow because he's soo fat and stupid, no one would miss him and people all over, would wonder who the BNP will elect next. - They're too facist for my liking, for ANYONE's liking, and are proof that if you neglect an area because not everywhere can be soo prosperous as another, like Dagenham, where the BNP ran in London, is a sh*t hole but Enfield, where the BNP didn't, isn't. - Then the people will grow stupid and start bashing each other with rocks and rubbish found in car parks because they're white, they're poor and they're P'ed off.
Only inasmuch as 'elites' implies royalty and our peculiarly archaic system of state representative. Aside from that, you can't really separate rich bastards in Europe from rich bastards in the UK. There are still people from all countries who call themselves 'aristocrats' but they are throwbacks and aren't taken seriously. All in all I think Iguana is right; we all have our problems and we all have our successes. There isn't really enough difference to say one country is better than any other.
That was exactly my point. I just take great pleasure in pointing out how ridiculous some people are.
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I'm not saying the UK's better... - But I'm not saying it's the same neither.
We're not even like America, sure, the Royal Family respect America more than I can describe right now... But we're still way too socialist for their liking... So I'd say, in 2011, we're still each our own.
Maybe in 2061 - The world will seem more unified; hopefully sooner.
We're not even like America, sure, the Royal Family respect America more than I can describe right now... But we're still way too socialist for their liking... So I'd say, in 2011, we're still each our own.
Maybe in 2061 - The world will seem more unified; hopefully sooner.
