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Theoretical: If HBO did Sc-Fi what books would you want them to do

Fantasy is as much ghettoized as sci-fi, as some of the more disdainful reviews of Game of Thrones sort of made clear.

It can't be ghettoized if it's the hot new trend on ever-mainstream broadcast - One Upon a Time on ABC, Grimm on NBC, and The Secret Circle on CW (which already has The Vampire Diaries).

But how many of those are being viewed at synonymous with the kind of high expectations associated with the HBO brand? Game of Thrones markets and presents itself like it's Rome gone medieval.
 
Maybe I should spring for HBO. I hear Dinklage rocks. :bolian:

Once again, HBO’s Game of Thrones ratings hit a season high Sunday night, climbing to 2.6 million viewers for its premiere airing.

Combined with its encore, Thrones was up to 3.3 million viewers for the night, with the show averaging 8.1 million viewers per episode across all platforms. After a somewhat middling premiere performance followed by a steady second episode, this is now the third week in a row Thrones ratings have gone up. And given the show’s storyline is picking up the pace for a dramatic second half of the season, these numbers could continue rising and turn Thrones into a bona fide hit. Intensely serialized shows like Thrones rarely climb like this, and when they do they tend to become titles that have healthy lifespans.
Also, this news is good for the health of sf/f across cable. If Falling Skies is a hit for TNT, that should seal the deal.

Awesome news. Yeah Dinklage rocks. I had reservations about his casting thinking they're just casting a well-known dwarf. But he has been so great in the role and made Tyrion really cool.

I think the cable audience just love a good story, well-produced and acted. The genre is not the most important factor, just like how a book lover reads all kinds of books.
 
And no actual Science Fiction.

Alcatraz, Terra Nova, Touch and maybe The River qualify as sci fi to me.

Fantasy is as much ghettoized as sci-fi, as some of the more disdainful reviews of Game of Thrones sort of made clear.
It can't be ghettoized if it's the hot new trend on ever-mainstream broadcast - One Upon a Time on ABC, Grimm on NBC, and The Secret Circle on CW (which already has The Vampire Diaries).

But how many of those are being viewed at synonymous with the kind of high expectations associated with the HBO brand? Game of Thrones markets and presents itself like it's Rome gone medieval.

That has more to do with the channel the show is on. An HBO show carries certain expectations, as does an AMC show, a Starz show, a USA show, a CBS show, a CW show and an NBC show, although NBC is frantically trying to change that... :D

NBC and ABC's goals are pretty much interchangeable now. Once Upon a Time and Grimm are probably going to end up being very similar in that they'll be pretty tamed down and not as arty as cable, but aiming for a more grownup audience than the CW would go for. USA would be fluffy, CBS wouldn't do anything in the sf/f genre, HBO and AMC would go for arty and complex, and Starz would throw gobs of violence and sleaze at the screen. I guess Camelot was their stab at a fantasy show, but it sounds like it was too stupid to succeed.
 
That has more to do with the channel the show is on. An HBO show carries certain expectations, as does an AMC show, a Starz show, a USA show, a CBS show, a CW show and an NBC show, although NBC is frantically trying to change that... :D
Which is where the context of sci-fi as a ghettoized entertainment emerged. Obviously, there are American networks that aren't ipso facto against Sci-Fi or we'd never have, well, a lot of science fiction television.

Doesn't mean HBO would do one necessarily.
 
According to this report, American Gods just might be HBO's next genre show.

And now word that TV giant HBO, coaxed by Playtone partners Tom Hanks and Gary Goetzman, are to prep an adaptation of the black clad ones, Stoker Award-Winning novel American Gods. Adding to the excitement is the involvement of Robert Richardson, Oscar winning cinematographer for Scorsese (Shutter Island), Tarantino and Stone (JFK). If all goes to plan this will be his first co-scripting credit, working with Gaiman himself on a pilot to ensure their vision of the story stays true to the text. With Game of Thrones currently causing a stir, HBO will no doubt look at the ratings damage once the dust has cleared before pressing the big green-light button.
The dust has cleared, Game of Thrones ratings are better than solid - they're going up!

I'd prefer a more sci fi than fantasy show to be HBO's next pickup, but hey it's a step in the right direction! Maybe HBO will become the sf/f cable network that skiffy should be. :rommie:
I'm not sure, but I think I remember reading somewhere that this was going to be their next mini-series, not a regular weekly thing.
As for HBO being the new fantasy/sf network, if they keep doing this kind of stuff, then I would be thrilled. Although TBH I'd be even more thrilled if this stuff was on a network I could actually watch.
 
The River info from ABC.com:
The River follows the story of wildlife expert and TV personality Emmet Cole. Emmet set course around the world with his wife, Tess, and son, Lincoln, while filming what would become one of the most popular shows in television. After he goes missing deep in the Amazon, his family, friends and crew set out on a mysterious and deadly journey to find him.

Famed explorer Dr. Emmet Cole (Bruce Greenwood) went looking for magic deep in the uncharted Amazon and never returned. The shocking truth about his disappearance is out there, somewhere, just waiting to be discovered. To the millions of kids who grew up watching his nature show, Dr. Cole was a hero. To his own son, Lincoln (Joe Anderson), he was more of an enigma. Now, six months after he vanished, Lincoln is finally ready to bury the past when Dr. Cole's emergency beacon suddenly goes off. At the urging of his mother, Tess (Leslie Hope), Lincoln reluctantly joins her on a search for his father. To fund the rescue, they agree to let Dr. Cole's cagey ex-producer, Clark (Paul Blackthorne), film the mission documentary-style. The mixed crew of old friends and new acquaintances includes the sexy and resourceful Lena (Eloise Mumford), loyal mechanic Emilio (Daniel Zacapa) and lethal bodyguard Captain Kurt Brynildson (Thomas Kretschmann).
I'm pretty sure I've seen it included in discussions of the new season's sci-fi/fantasy series.
 
Could be, but there's nothing in the description to indicate anything more than Pulp jungle adventure. Which we definitely don't have enough of, though.
 
I'll have to watch for The River. Anything on American showing of further Torchwood?
Miss Captain Jack....
 
Dunno if it's been mentioned before, but I think the Dune novels could benefit from an even more serialized format.
 
Dunno if it's been mentioned before, but I think the Dune novels could benefit from an even more serialized format.
I'd very much like to see Dune done in a Game of Thrones-style TV series.* I guess I'm not sure how long such a show should go on for - I'd like the first four Dune novels in an ideal world, which would probably add up as three seasons (such a slender thing, Dune Messiah), but I don't know, maybe there's a way to save Chapterhouse and Heretics, either of which I haven't read in almost a decade and only dimly recall really not liking at all.

I guess the problem beyond a lack of closure to the existing Herbert novels as an arc - this assuming, of course, one doesn't just want to adapt the first book - is whether or not a Dune film would be prohibitively expensive.

*It's a conflict between two great houses, with a focus on the patriarch of one of the houses and his offspring as he moves to a new location... the comparison comes rather naturally, frankly.
 
And no actual Science Fiction.

Alcatraz, Terra Nova, Touch and maybe The River qualify as sci fi to me.
Well, Terra Nova will probably qualify technically. Alcatraz is Abrams so it will probably be some vague fantasy that ends badly. :rommie: I'm not sure if I've heard of The River.

Alcatraz has time travel so that qualifies. The River might be fantasy or sci fi - probably will get cancelled before we find out.
 
As suggested in other thread, maybe More Than Human by Theodore Sturgeon?
I'd never heard of that until you mentioned it in the other thread, but I looked it up on wikipedia and that sounds like it would be an awesome premise for a TV series. Although, they'd have to change the title, because when I looked it up I also got an unrelated Discover Channel show with the same name.
 
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