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THOR: Grading, Discussion, Review **SPOILERS***

What grade do you give THOR?

  • A+

    Votes: 25 12.2%
  • A

    Votes: 48 23.4%
  • A-

    Votes: 49 23.9%
  • B+

    Votes: 33 16.1%
  • B

    Votes: 24 11.7%
  • B-

    Votes: 9 4.4%
  • C+

    Votes: 5 2.4%
  • C

    Votes: 6 2.9%
  • C-

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • D+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • D-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 3 1.5%

  • Total voters
    205
  • Poll closed .
I thought thor would make a terrible jesus.... Oh... is this a thor thread or a jesus thread?
or does jesus have a thor toe....
 
Quick! Who would win in a fight?!

Thor VS Jesus

There's a couple pictures floating out there about that.

One's Thor saying "Your god was nailed to a cross. My carries a hammer." The other's Jesus saying "So how's that 'bringing Balder back from the dead thing' working out?"
 
Thor dropped to third place this weekend for an estimated domestic cum of 145 million by Monday. That's better than might have been expected (some sites were calling it as low as 135). 200 million is not out of the question, but 180 is more likely.

Clearly the studios are increasingly dependent upon monies and measurements other than domestic box office to measure the success of expensive films like this, or there'd be no talk of sequels for many. For a 150 million dollar film to clear a meaningful profit entirely on the basis of domestic would require a take of about 275 million. Since the percentage of box office from international distribution is lower, the overseas totals need to be higher - and then there's DVD and Blu-ray as well as licensing of merchandise. DVD sales have been in the doldrums for a while.
 
I still say, though I thought it a fun ride and very worthy popcorn entertainment, that Loki was the best character in the movie. The actor stole the show. Not a cut and dried villain.
 
Thor dropped to third place this weekend for an estimated domestic cum of 145 million by Monday. That's better than might have been expected (some sites were calling it as low as 135). 200 million is not out of the question, but 180 is more likely.

Clearly the studios are increasingly dependent upon monies and measurements other than domestic box office to measure the success of expensive films like this, or there'd be no talk of sequels for many. For a 150 million dollar film to clear a meaningful profit entirely on the basis of domestic would require a take of about 275 million. Since the percentage of box office from international distribution is lower, the overseas totals need to be higher - and then there's DVD and Blu-ray as well as licensing of merchandise. DVD sales have been in the doldrums for a while.
I can't tell for sure but you do realize this is headed well north of $400m World Wide, right? It's going to clear a profit just at the box office.

DVD, TV/Cable Rights, Netflix streaming and all other revenue streams are going to be icing?
 
I can't tell for sure but you do realize this is headed well north of $400m World Wide, right? It's going to clear a profit just at the box office.

That seems reasonable, but does anyone know what percentage of foreign box office the studios take in? Epstein cites it as about fifteen percent, and I can't find anyone to contradict him.

The studios actually keep this kind of information pretty close, so such analyses are always guesswork. He's done the research, though.

If Epstein's accurate, then the studio's cut of 400 million dollars is about 60 million - add that to (generously) 190 million domestic and you come up just barely in the red, in any event certainly not showing the kind of profit that motivates investors to risk hundreds of millions. The profits from licensing, home video, etc must put a movie like this over the top.

It's funny because the big movie studios fought tooth-and-nail against the so-called "home video revolution" and it's wound up saving their asses by creating a whole new revenue stream.

There's also presumably some expectation that good word-of-mouth and strong video sales may set up a bigger box office for a sequel, as long as costs are kept under control.

Epstein's an interesting read in general in terms of how movie financing works.
 
Watched it today. Overall it was a bit underwhelming, but saved by the charisma of it's lead. I'm really interested to see him reprise Thor in The Avengers film.
 
I can't tell for sure but you do realize this is headed well north of $400m World Wide, right? It's going to clear a profit just at the box office.

That seems reasonable, but does anyone know what percentage of foreign box office the studios take in? Epstein cites it as about fifteen percent, and I can't find anyone to contradict him.

The studios actually keep this kind of information pretty close, so such analyses are always guesswork. He's done the research, though.

If Epstein's accurate, then the studio's cut of 400 million dollars is about 60 million - add that to (generously) 190 million domestic and you come up just barely in the red, in any event certainly not showing the kind of profit that motivates investors to risk hundreds of millions. The profits from licensing, home video, etc must put a movie like this over the top.

It's funny because the big movie studios fought tooth-and-nail against the so-called "home video revolution" and it's wound up saving their asses by creating a whole new revenue stream.

There's also presumably some expectation that good word-of-mouth and strong video sales may set up a bigger box office for a sequel, as long as costs are kept under control.

Epstein's an interesting read in general in terms of how movie financing works.

Well, the way that I've read it on other sites, it is generally accepted that, to cover the budget and marketing and studio/theatre splits, a movie needs to make double its production costs worldwide.

That would mean that as Thor has a production value of $150m, it would need to gross around $300m worldwide to break even. In view of this, Thor should easily achieve this goal.

Don't know how accurate this line of thinking is in practice :shrug: . However, it must be close or else most of our recent blockbuster movies would be outright bombs based on their production costs, and we wouldn't see talk of all these sequels.
 
"Thor" slipped to third place and took into $15.5 million. Pirates had a huge weekend making around 90 plus million.
 
..it is generally accepted that, to cover the budget and marketing and studio/theatre splits, a movie needs to make double its production costs worldwide.

It's more like 1.8 times these days, and that's domestic - the percentage of foreign take going to the studios is much more limited, and of course whether that contributes significantly to the success of the film depends on how much of the box office is domestic and how much is foreign. Obviously, a film which does - for example - 400 million dollars with 60 percent of that being domestic and 40 percent foreign brings a lot more money to the studio than 400 million dollars with 40 percent domestic and 60 percent foreign.
 
It's funny because the big movie studios fought tooth-and-nail against the so-called "home video revolution" and it's wound up saving their asses by creating a whole new revenue stream.
That's kind of difficult to quantify. Much of the revenue from DVD sales/rentals/etc. is just compensating for declines in theatre attendance that home video facilitated in the first place.
 
I wouldn't expect PotC to hold onto its lead as the reviews and WOM isn't good, but Thor's dive is irrecoverable at this point. Not by its own fault, just the nature of this movie season. I'd expect Hangover 2 to dominate this weekend and PotC to see a more than 50% drop.
 
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