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Moffat - "you can imagine how much I hate them"

Yeah the hiatus is from the end of July to the start of Sep sometime. I saw this a few weeks ago on Doctor Who Wiki (not exactly the most reliable of sources I know).
 
June 4th is due to be the midseason cliffhanger and then BBC has not confirmed the restart, bar saying September. I would presume the 10th to be restart date (2nd saturday in Sept and summer hoildays will be over too).
 
Yeah the hiatus is from the end of July to the start of Sep sometime. I saw this a few weeks ago on Doctor Who Wiki (not exactly the most reliable of sources I know).

2 Entertain has announced the North American DVD/Blu-ray release of Series 6.2 as "early November" so doing the math on that, September does appear to be most likely.

I think a lot will depend on when BBC One decides to run Torchwood, and if it'll be a weekly or they run it more frequently. They usually try to avoid running the two shows in competition. There's nothing saying that Starz and BBC One will air on the same day, though it would be silly not to after the precedent set with DW.

Running DW Sept-Oct would then allow the BBC to air the Sarah Jane Adventures' final episodes at the traditional time of year.

There's potential here (for UK viewers anyway) of having non-stop Who-franchise programming from the summer through to almost Christmas. (10 Torchwood, 6 DW, 6 SJA assuming they air in half-hour chapters as usual, plus there's supposed to be a fan-written mini-episode coming up based on that contest which I assume will air for Children in Need - no brainer, that).

Alex
 
I think a lot will depend on when BBC One decides to run Torchwood, and if it'll be a weekly or they run it more frequently. They usually try to avoid running the two shows in competition. There's nothing saying that Starz and BBC One will air on the same day, though it would be silly not to after the precedent set with DW.

That's the 8th of July to the 9th of September, assuming they were in step with Starz.
 
At least it'll be interesting to see how a Fall series will do ratings-wise. I'm getting tired of the weekly 'Ratings were down this week because it was a nice day' line. :rolleyes:

Just like it'll be interesting to see if they crack down on revealing information on upcoming episodes.
 
At least it'll be interesting to see how a Fall series will do ratings-wise. I'm getting tired of the weekly 'Ratings were down this week because it was a nice day' line. :rolleyes:

Just like it'll be interesting to see if they crack down on revealing information on upcoming episodes.

The ratings have actually been very good, it's just the overnights that look bad, but even then they're not bad when you look at the shares.
 
The ratings have actually been very good, it's just the overnights that look bad, but even then they're not bad when you look at the shares.

Year on year the final figures are down though, while obviously still being better than most other shows on TV.

And there was no sun or bank holidays last weekend and the overnights droppped which pretty much disproves those theories.
 
The ratings have actually been very good, it's just the overnights that look bad, but even then they're not bad when you look at the shares.

Year on year the final figures are down though, while obviously still being better than most other shows on TV.

And there was no sun or bank holidays last weekend and the overnights droppped which pretty much disproves those theories.

Wasn't the final figure on one of them one of the highest since it's been back?
 
Wasn't the final figure on one of them one of the highest since it's been back?

No.

Final Figures for first three, versus first three last year.

The Eleventh Hour 10.08M / The Impossible Astronaut 8.86M
The Beast Below 8.4M / Day of the Moon 7.3M
Victory of the Daleks 8.2M / Curse of the Black Spot 7.85M
 
Wasn't the final figure on one of them one of the highest since it's been back?

No.

Final Figures for first three, versus first three last year.

The Eleventh Hour 10.08M / The Impossible Astronaut 8.86M
The Beast Below 8.4M / Day of the Moon 7.3M
Victory of the Daleks 8.2M / Curse of the Black Spot 7.85M

I believe the Share was higher, though, on at least 1 if not two of the episodes. And really, the Share is a more true test, since if you have fewer people watching TV, obviously each show will have fewer people watching it.
 
I believe the Share was higher, though, on at least 1 if not two of the episodes. And really, the Share is a more true test, since if you have fewer people watching TV, obviously each show will have fewer people watching it.

Not really. Twelve million and a 30% share is better than six million and a 60% share. I used to have a speadsheet with Ratings / Share / Chart Positions and AI on it but sadly it's no more.

Here's the complete list in Final Ratings, though:

Voyage Of The Damned 13.31
The Next Doctor 13.10
The End Of Time 2 12.27
A Christmas Carol 12.11
The End Of Time 1 12.04
Rose 10.81
Journey's End 10.57
The Waters Of Mars 10.32
The Eleventh Hour 10.08
The Christmas Invasion 9.80
Planet Of The Dead 9.74
The Runaway Bride 9.40
Tooth And Claw 9.20
Rise Of The Cybermen 9.20
Partners In Crime 9.10
Fires Of Pompeii 9.00
The Unquiet Dead 8.86
The Impossible Astronaut 8.86
The Stolen Earth 8.78
Smith And Jones 8.70
Dalek 8.60
New Earth 8.60
Last Of The Time Lords 8.60
The Time Of Angels 8.59
Flesh And Stone 8.50
The Unicorn And The Wasp 8.41
Gridlock 8.40
The Beast Below 8.40
School Reunion 8.30
Victory Of The Daleks 8.20
Turn Left 8.09
Midnight 8.05
The Long Game 8.00
Fathers Day 8.00
Doomsday 8.00
World War 3 7.98
The End Of The World 7.97
The Girl In The Fireplace 7.90
Army Of Ghosts 7.90
Curse Of The Black Spot 7.85
Forest Of The Dead 7.84
Utopia 7.80
Human Nature 7.70
Vampires Of Venice 7.68
Aliens Of London 7.60
Boom Town 7.60
The Age Of Steel 7.60
The Pandorica Opens 7.57
Amy's Choice 7.55
The Sound Of Drums 7.50
Planet Of The Ood 7.50
Cold Blood 7.49
Forty-Two 7.40
The Doctor's Daughter 7.33
Day Of The Moon 7.30
The Shakespeare Code 7.20
The Lazarus Experiment 7.20
The Family Of Blood 7.20
The Empty Child 7.10
The Sontaran Stratagem 7.06
Evolution Of The Daleks 7.00
The Parting Of The Ways 6.90
Fear Her 6.90
The Doctor Dances 6.80
Bad Wolf 6.80
The Idiot's Lantern 6.80
Vincent And The Doctor 6.76
Daleks In Manhattan 6.70
The Big Bang 6.70
Love & Monsters 6.60
Blink 6.60
The Poison Sky 6.53
The Hungry Earth 6.49
The Lodger 6.44
The Impossible Planet 6.30
Silence In The Library 6.27
The Satan Pit 6.00



So Moffat's series' gets two in the Top 10 and three in the Bottom 10 so far.

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AI reamains farely constant througout (poor old 'Love & Monsters' excepted) but in terms of Chart Positions I doubt anything will every top Series 4.
 
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Is it? Why is that? I mean I know the numbers, but it still means more people who were watching TV were watching BBC One, which is better.
 
I believe the Share was higher, though, on at least 1 if not two of the episodes. And really, the Share is a more true test, since if you have fewer people watching TV, obviously each show will have fewer people watching it.

Not really. Twelve million and a 30% share is better than six million and a 60% share. I used to have a speadsheet with Ratings / Share / Chart Positions and AI on it but sadly it's no more.
How can you possibly say that? If only half the people are watching TV this week, as watched this week last year, then getting twice the percentage you got last year is phenomenal, because you doubled the share, with fewer people available to gain it from.
 
When I agreed to become a mod 10 years ago, the very first thing I realized was that I'd have to care not at all about spoilers. I do appreciate the warning, but honestly... spoilers are no big deal to me. hazards of the job

You must be really really old.
 
How can you possibly say that? If only half the people are watching TV this week, as watched this week last year, then getting twice the percentage you got last year is phenomenal, because you doubled the share, with fewer people available to gain it from.

Then should they put the series on after Midnight where it could pick up a 90% share with a couple of million viewers?
 
How can you possibly say that? If only half the people are watching TV this week, as watched this week last year, then getting twice the percentage you got last year is phenomenal, because you doubled the share, with fewer people available to gain it from.

Then should they put the series on after Midnight where it could pick up a 90% share with a couple of million viewers?

You're being deliberately obtuse. If 12m people are watching TV at 6pm and 7m decide to tune in to Doctor Who rather than the 600 other things that are on at that time then it did brilliantly. Much better than say if 24m are watching TV and it could only convince 9m to tune in.
 
When I agreed to become a mod 10 years ago, the very first thing I realized was that I'd have to care not at all about spoilers. I do appreciate the warning, but honestly... spoilers are no big deal to me. hazards of the job

You must be really really old.

Awww, give Neroon a break ... I've been giving him shit all week.
 
You're being deliberately obtuse. If 12m people are watching TV at 6pm and 7m decide to tune in to Doctor Who rather than the 600 other things that are on at that time then it did brilliantly. Much better than say if 24m are watching TV and it could only convince 9m to tune in.

I don't accept that. Audience Share by itself is meaningless. It's share, ratings and chart position combined that measures success.
 
You're being deliberately obtuse. If 12m people are watching TV at 6pm and 7m decide to tune in to Doctor Who rather than the 600 other things that are on at that time then it did brilliantly. Much better than say if 24m are watching TV and it could only convince 9m to tune in.

I don't accept that. Audience Share by itself is meaningless. It's share, ratings and chart position combined that measures success.

So 2nd of the day and more than a 3rd of people watching TV isn't successful in your eyes?
 
So Moffat's series' gets two in the Top 10 and three in the Bottom 10 so far.



AI reamains farely constant througout (poor old 'Love & Monsters' excepted) but in terms of Chart Positions I doubt anything will every top Series 4.


A link would have sufficed quite well, don't you think? If I'm on a widescreen monitor, and I still have to scroll to see the whole thing, it's too big. As you know, board rules for pictures (outside of picture threads) are 640 x 480. For some reason, people seem to be ignoring this as of late.

As hard as it is to believe, there are still people who access via dial-up and other slow methods like DSL. Be considerate.
 
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