Just for fun, what do you think Star Trek 2 would be like if, instead of bringing back Kahn they had brought back another Trek villain from TOS? How do you think the movie would've played out?
Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Mudd
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I created a thread like this a few years back. Always an interesting topic!
I would have loved to see Garth of Izar make a return. I think he would have made a formidable foe, especially if they still wanted to go with the revenge theme. I don't know if that would have worked in the end, because I think the actor died either right around the time TWOK was in production.
I would have loved to see Garth of Izar make a return. I think he would have made a formidable foe, especially if they still wanted to go with the revenge theme. I don't know if that would have worked in the end, because I think the actor died either right around the time TWOK was in production.
Peter David did a Comic Miniseries where Garth of Izar returns to seek revenge on Kirk. Its typical Peter David, but its an interesting read all the same.
That was Of Gods And Men. Ambitious, but overwritten (IMO, YMMV, whatever).
Bringing back Harry Mudd so early might have been the death of the movie series. They needed the action element securely in place before attempting a comedy, and like it or not, HM was a comedic figure.
He could be redone as a villainous scalawag in the new movie universe, but I bet people wouldn't like it.
^^^ I've thought something along those lines would've been fun.
Trelane.
Who by then would become just another Q.
Maybe an army of Gorns run amuck somewhere.
Or Tribbles!
Who by then would become just another Q.
Maybe an army of Gorns run amuck somewhere.
Or Tribbles!
I don't think TNG was out then, but still, cool idea!
THIS
No wait, THIS!!!
Gorns and Tribbles!!!!
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Captain
They could have brought back a crazed Ron Tracey, hell bent on revenge.
Of course, that story was already tackled in the Star Trek - The Animated Series comic book 'For Honor And Glory'.
Which was really cool, I might add.
Concerning Garth Of Izar, I like the 2002 Star Trek novel Garth Of Izar, better.
Of course, that story was already tackled in the Star Trek - The Animated Series comic book 'For Honor And Glory'.
Which was really cool, I might add.
Concerning Garth Of Izar, I like the 2002 Star Trek novel Garth Of Izar, better.
WHERE IS THAT?!
The early ideas for what would become Star Trek II did include Kor. He was considered as a possible enemy until Harve Bennett settled on Khan. And I'm relatively certain Harry Mudd WAS considered for that bar scene in Star Trek III. Bennett was very much in favor of bringing back characters - he is the man who decided to bring back Khan, Sarek, Amanda, etc.
I'm not sure why the Harry Mudd scene didn't happen. I had a Starlog magazine from around that time where Roger C. Carmel stated that polls being done at conventions heavily favored the return of Harry, and he was hoping to do it. The producers of TNG also considered using him in the season one episode The Neutral Zone, but he died before it could happen.
I'm not sure why the Harry Mudd scene didn't happen. I had a Starlog magazine from around that time where Roger C. Carmel stated that polls being done at conventions heavily favored the return of Harry, and he was hoping to do it. The producers of TNG also considered using him in the season one episode The Neutral Zone, but he died before it could happen.
