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Bryan Singer: Why 'Superman Returns' Didn't Work

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VOICES FROM KRYPTON: Were you surprised by people’s reaction to the film?

BRYAN SINGER: It’s hard for me to assess it. My gut response is, “It didn’t do THAT bad.” You know, summer’s a tricky time – I know it’s hard to blame the time, but there’s a bit of an expectation for a summer movie. I think that Superman Returns was a bit nostalgic and romantic, and I don’t think that was what people were expecting, especially in the summer. What I had noticed is that there weren’t a lot of women lining up to see a comic book movie, but they were going to line up to see The Devil Wears Prada, which may have been something I wanted to address. But when you’re making a movie, you’re not thinking about that stuff, you’re thinking, “Wow, I want to make a romantic movie that harkens back to the Richard Donner movie that I loved so much.” And that’s what I did…

VOICES FROM KRYPTON: But focusing on the romantic side of things, especially in a superhero movie, is NOT what people would have expected from you.

BRYAN SINGER: Right, because I was known for the X-Men Pictures, which had been more realistic and edgier. That I think was a big piece of what it was. Plus you had that complicated relationship between the Richard White character and Lois Lane that might have thrown people off. Quentin Tarantino and I had a big conversation about it — he has a fascination with this film and he wrote this whole essay about it, but the Lois Lane part of it has always been a stickler with him. This is me extrapolating, but the relationship in the Donner film was so black and white and here it was complex. Adding to that, of course, was the child that was involved. Again, I really do think I was making the film for that Devil Wears Prada audience of women who wouldn’t normally come to a superhero film.

Read the rest here:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansi...E_Bryan_Singer_Looks_Back_at_Superman_Returns

Singer admits how he would have done things differently if he was given the chance to do it all over again. He also talks about why he never did a Trek movie even though he is a huge fan.

I thought SR was okay, but it could have been so much more if it hadn't been a sequel to the Donner movie.
 
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I really liked and admired the movie as it was. It really channelled the first two movies to the point where I could forget that 3 and 4 ever existed. A bit more action would have made it perfect. The most tragic thing is that Brandon Routh's note-perfect performance of Reeves' Clark Kent won't get another outing.
 
I appreciate the movie. It's pretty good. The problem is that it's not a new take on the character. It's a sequel to the Donner films. We waited twenty years for a sequel? I think a new interpretation was needed, not a love letter to the 78 film.
 
I didn't mind it being a sequel to the Donner film, I just thought giving him a kid was a major mis-step. And of course having him stalk Louis just came across as creepy.

And really. Having Lex trying to pulloff yet ANOTHER crazy real-estate scheme? Is that the best they could come up with?
 
But it wasn't a sequel either.

The lifted lines from the Donner movies just made the event very Earth 2.
 
I want that Tarantino essay. Someone find it for me, and then link to it here so I can read it at my leisure.
 
Superman Returns didn't work because it was bland, banal, boring, insipid, mundane, vapid, pedestrian, dull, tedious and otherwise unremarkable.*

* This post sponsored by thesaurus.com.
 
I want that Tarantino essay. Someone find it for me, and then link to it here so I can read it at my leisure.
I don't think it ever saw the light of day. He's been talking about it for years, but I haven't seen it turn up anywhere.
 
I didn't mind it being a sequel to the Donner film, I just thought giving him a kid was a major mis-step. And of course having him stalk Louis just came across as creepy.

And really. Having Lex trying to pulloff yet ANOTHER crazy real-estate scheme? Is that the best they could come up with?
I'm with you. Sequel or "Earth 2"-quel wasn't it's problem. The problem was a weak plot by the Big Bad, lack of action and a weird semi-creepy Superman stalky thing that subtracted from what could have been an action packed film with nostalgia tossed in for good measure. Superman's most "super" feats seemed to be the plane rescue and lifting an island. There should have been a lot more than that.

I also agree that Rough did a perfect channeling of Christopher Reeves, down to his voice intonations. I was very impressed.
 
Superman Returns didn't work because it was bland, banal, boring, insipid, mundane, vapid, pedestrian, dull, tedious and otherwise unremarkable.*

* This post sponsored by thesaurus.com.

That about sums up my view, though you could toss in badly cast as well, particularly in the Lois Lane department.

Routh was excellent however.
 
I know this is OT but is there any chance Routh could play Superman in the upcoming Justice League movie?
 
Superman's most "super" feats seemed to be the plane rescue and lifting an island. There should have been a lot more than that.

I personally loved the boat rescue moment. I thought it was iconic in every way...the way it was shot, the music, Routh's performance. Love it.

I think if they had a different actress playing Lois, got rid of the kid and re-wrote the so-called "stalker" angle a bit, I think the movie would have been great as is. People might still complain about the lack of action a bit, but I think it would have been much more loved.
 
I liked it and I want a sequel, where everything is already set up in place and ready to go. What do I get instead? Yet another origin of Superman story. Fucking YAWN!
 
I really liked and admired the movie as it was. It really channelled the first two movies to the point where I could forget that 3 and 4 ever existed. A bit more action would have made it perfect. The most tragic thing is that Brandon Routh's note-perfect performance of Reeves' Clark Kent won't get another outing.
I agree 100%. Just a little more action would have made it better but all in all a good Superman movie. I don't even own Superman 3 or 4.
 
I thought the film was fine, and making it a sequel to Superman II, even with the completely different cast, was one way to ease people into someone other than Christopher Reeve as Superman. But I think one of the reasons Superman Returns didn't work out was actually nothing to do with the film itself, but the fact there wasn't a "Superman Returns II" announced right away. As a result, the film took on a "misfire" feel early on and Singer's revised version of the mythology never really had a chance to be solidified.

SR would have been perfect for the "let's do two films at once" treatment, just like the original two Donner films, which Singer perhaps being able to tweak things for the second film based upon feedback from the first.

Some of the complaints I heard were a bit out to lunch, though. I mean, there were people who hated the film based upon the costume. Others for some reason didn't care for Kate Bosworth as Lois (too young and too blonde), yet they probably would have harped had someone in her 30s like Winona Ryder been cast and called her too old (I cite Ryder specifically because DC's Superman Secret Origin miniseries last year used her likeness for Lois). And who knows how today's Internet audience would have reacted to someone like Margot Kidder being cast!

Personally I greatly enjoyed SR, and since the next Superman film will be a reboot, I see SR as the coda to the Reeve series of films, which is good because I think the opinion is universal that, while SR may have had flaws, it's still infinitely better than The Quest for Peace!

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For me, it's not so much how Bosworth looked...though she did look really young for an experienced, hardened journalist...it's just that she sucked in the role. I thought Routh was outstanding, but whenever they were onscreen together, I couldn't help but wonder; "What was Singer thinking?"
 
I liked the movie, and the fact that it was pitched a bit more in the direction of romance than as a summer blockbuster is probably one reason.

I'm not sympathetic to a single one of the fannish complaints about this flick.
 
I don't think Bryan Singer understood the appeal of The Devil Wears Prada.

(Not a sentence I expected to be typing in a Supes thread.)

That's a seriously bizarre comparison.
 
He hired a hot blonde.

There's a hairdresser out there who needs to be shot for tanking a summer block buster.
 
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