F*** you Disney!

[bigdaddy]

This is a rant about Disney's bullshit "vault" but also how fucking lame copyright laws are.

I just took a DVD recorder from my grandparents, the family wants me to figure out how to record old family videos to DVD format. So to test it out I was going to take Toy Story or Bambi to see if it works being that they are the shortest things I have around.

It won't let me! It's "copyright protected"! I fucking own the movies! I didn't steal the movies they were bought by someone in the family!

If I want my 20 year old VHS to be made into a DVD, and then have that be made into an iPod video I should be allowed! The damn warning on movies is for the selling of the movie. If I copy it in my own right, that should be my right.

It's not like Aladdin, Cinderella, The Little Mermaid are easily found because of the vault, but I legally own them but can't update them. I wonder why people ignore the fucking useless copyright laws and just down things "illegally". If I own it and download it wouldn't that be legal?

Fucking Disney.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

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Uh, what? If you tried this with family videos--I assume you mean videos recorded by your family with a camcorder--it would work fine because those aren't going to be copy-protected.

Virtually all commercial DVDs, however, use CSS encryption, and it is a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to break that encryption, hence the message you got.

The problem with downloading something you've already bought is that you're engaged in the unlawful reproduction and distribution of copyrighted material. While you making a copy is technically allowed, that specific mechanism for doing it is not.

Yes, I agree that it's asinine.

 

[JarodRussell]

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Even VHS are copyprotected (yep, even the oldest ones). If you want to burn a comercial VHS to DVD, most DVD recorders won't let you.

 

[Trekker4747]

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Yeah, I don't get too much of the argument here. Disney copy-protected their DVDs. So? They have that "right" to protect their intellectual property. It's stupid that copy-protection is so pervasive now when for most VHS tapes it wasn't a big problem and could be worked around.

But in the digital age it is a problem. Disney wants to protect their property.

Want to be pissed at Disney? I am. Be pissed at them for how they're handling/handled the release of the Tron DVDs.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

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Macrovision copy protection is not your friend. VHS transfers to DVD usually look shitty anyway.

 

[ITL]

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There used to be a special SCART cable to get round the Macrovision protection.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

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Macrovision is the fucking devil.

 

[bigdaddy]

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I was testing it out on the Disney VHS tapes to DVD because I have never done it and wanted to transfer something shorter than 4-6 hours of family videos. I understand DVD protection, to a point, but for VHS tapes to have a copyright on them that stops my DVD recordings now a days is a joke, like most people want their DVDs in full screen cropping.

So I'm transferring Follow That Bird because it's on a plane tape.

 

[OwN]

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I never had any idea they could do that.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

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This definitely isn't a Disney-only deal. I still have a Macrovision defeater that is like 20 years old, I don't know how the hell we dug those things up pre-internet but we had our ways.

The bright side is you shouldn't have any issues with your family videos.

 

[Davros]

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We were allowed to record albums we had purchased to cassette tapes, and I fail to see how this should be any different.

 

[RoJoHen]

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Want to be pissed at Disney? I am. Be pissed at them for how they're handling/handled the release of the Tron DVDs.

I'm pissed at the rate they are releasing their classic movies on Blu-Ray!

I want them all right now!

 

[Tiberius]

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As long as you aren't going to be selling the things for your own profit, I don't see what the big deal is. it's just creating a backup, after all.

I've copied all of Star trek to an external hard drive. don't get me wrong, I own every DVD. I just copied it so that if I lose the DVD I can still watch it (I paid for the DVD which gives me the right to watch it after all), and it makes it more convenient, because I don't have to sift through hundreds of discs to find the episode I am looking for.

 

[RoJoHen]

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As long as you aren't going to be selling the things for your own profit, I don't see what the big deal is. it's just creating a backup, after all.

The problem is that there's no way for Disney to know what your intentions are once you make that copy.

 

[Davros]

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Want to be pissed at Disney? I am. Be pissed at them for how they're handling/handled the release of the Tron DVDs.

I'm pissed at the rate they are releasing their classic movies on Blu-Ray!

I want them all right now!

You will be waiting a very long time for Song Of The South on blu-ray.

 

[RoJoHen]

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I mostly want The Little Mermaid.

 

[DeafPoet]

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We were allowed to record albums we had purchased to cassette tapes, and I fail to see how this should be any different.

And don't think that didn't freak the recording industry right the fuck out. Hence all the fancy copy protection.

 

[Davros]

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I mostly want The Little Mermaid.

I'm to old to consider that one of their classics.

 

[RoJoHen]

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If it has a Disney princess, it's a classic.

 

[bigdaddy]

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This definitely isn't a Disney-only deal. I still have a Macrovision defeater that is like 20 years old, I don't know how the hell we dug those things up pre-internet but we had our ways.

The bright side is you shouldn't have any issues with your family videos.

Yeah Follow That Bird seemed to have worked out well, does William Shatner talk in the very very beginning? So family tapes should be fine too.

Still I'd like to box up the VHS tapes and use discs... damn Disney.