Hate Enterprise, then come to love it?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by jimoinj, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. RandyS

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    I don't think that's an unfair assumption. I'd argue that every show made in the past ten or twelve years has done that, what little of them I've seen, anyway. Weither or not it's a good or bad thing really depends on the context of the story.
     
  2. PvtKtara

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    Excited at first, disappointed when the BermaBraga went off and jumped several sharks (or, that's how I felt about what they did with the Xindi and all that feldercarb). Of course, after JJTrek I'm beginning to have a new appreciation for Enterprise.
     
  3. Admiral Shran

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    :techman:
     
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    :techman::bolian::razz:
     
  5. gblews

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    Well TNG had two but which Trek series ever had more than one Brit (actor) in the regular cast other than TNG?

    There were only certain aspects of the show i disliked from he beginning, Trip, T'Pol, bland episodes. But season 3 caused me to fall in love.

    i ended up really liking Trip, and T'Pol ended up my favorite character. Only Trek show that ever made me seek out spoilers.
     
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    The only thing that bugged me about ENT when it first started was the ridge-brow Klingons. I was "WTF?? They better explain this!" When they finally did in Season Four, I was a happy guy.
     
  7. Admiral Shran

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    Heck, that was one thing I was happy about. I thought DS9 did a dis-service to the fans by making it an issue in Trails and Tribble-ations. I would have preferred if they just let it pass and let the audience assume that the ridges were always there.
     
  8. Skywalker

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    While I liked Affliction/Divergence, I really like an idea someone came up with in the DS9 forum re. Trials and Tribble-ations: instead of keeping Michael Dorn in the standard TNG-era Klingon makeup, put him in the TOS-era Klingon makeup instead and don't even call attention to it, just have everyone act as if it's completely normal.

    That would have been brilliant. :lol:
     
  9. RAMA

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  10. The Lensman

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    LOL! That's awesome!
     
  11. Reliant Robin

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    KZINTI. OMG. How cool would that have been. Now I'm sad all over again.

    Thank you Rama, I'd never seen those plans before.
     
  12. { Emilia }

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    Loved it right from the start and I think the first season of Enterprise was better than the first seasons of TNG, DS9 and VOY.
    I think at the time people were just tired of Star Trek sadly and some of the inflexible fans just hated it for ridiculous reasons. I suppose they just couldn't imagine that getting Enterprise canceled would kill of the franchise for a while.
    Everybody took Trek on tv for granted. :/
     
  13. Gov Kodos

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    Those are some great story ideas. I would have loved to have seen Flint again. A Kzin story would also have been very welcome. Oh, what might have been.
     
  14. Mutai Sho-Rin

    Mutai Sho-Rin Crusty Old Bastard Moderator

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    They had me at "It's been a long road..." Liked all of the characters, particularly Phlox and T'Pol. (Had a chance to spend an hour with John Billingsly - a really great guy.) Was a moderator here in the ENT forum and got booted because of my intolerance of certain trolls. Preconceptions are the death of awareness and understanding.

    My wife and I liked the theme song enough that we played it at a key moment in our 25th anniversary party. Seemed very appropriate.
     
  15. { Emilia }

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    Personally I didn't mind the theme song at all. I quite liked that it was different from previous series even though I liked their intros, too.

    Some people say that the lyrics are a bit cheesy. I guess that might be true but with English not being my first language I probably don't notice that as much.
     
  16. RAMA

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    Ah more sadness:

    http://www.glitchwerk.com/gallery/startrek.htm

    http://www.courtjones.com/house_of_diggs3.html
     
  17. lurok

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    I know TOS only had three, but didn't all the others get seven series?

    ENT wuz robbed !
     
  18. Rarewolf

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    Enterprise really caught me off guard - love and hate were never options - it was Star Trek. So it was unpleasant surprise when I discovered the unthinkable, it wasn't for me.

    Its the only show I can ever recall voluntarily giving up on, others if I see the pilot, I think I've always seen the finale unless it moved to a channel I didn't have.

    Worse than that, to quote Scotty in Relics 'It soured the milk' I've hardly watched any Star Trek since then. I suppose in a way its good it did wean me off Star Trek while I had a choice, rather wait 4 years for it to be snatched away.

    Maybe I did have a silly reason to hate it from day 1 - Scott went to Paramount to revive Quantum Leap. Enterprise killed that revival.

    I've pretty much forgotten most of what I saw of the show, I'd have to be paid to revisit it. A lot.

    So if you are wondering why am I posting here I'll quote Spock in Unification 'In the end all we had were the arguments, I will miss the arguments.' I like to hold on to that bitterness. It's all thats left.

    I do appreciate it, for allowing me to understand how fans could be so let down, and turn on a show. It happened with Dr Who (when I started watching it)

    Just remembering reading 'Enterprise Axed' still brings an evil grin to my face. It was satisfying.
     
  19. { Emilia }

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    The rest of your post was all fine and dandy but this is a silly attitude to be honest. There were people who enjoyed it so why grin just because it wasn't for you. You could've ignored it instead of showing Schadenfreude.
     
  20. Rarewolf

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    Oh I said evil grin, I do feel bad for feeling it. To a degree.

    Hell hath no fury like a fan disappointed, have to take your TV pleasures where you can get them.