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Business Casual: Tie or No Tie?

The rules for business casual where I work are:

hair clean and combed;

the shirt has to have a collar;

no buttons on the pants;

no jeans;

must wear socks;

no gym shoes or open toe shoes.

I typically wear a hawaiian shirt, slacks, white gym socks, steel toed boots and a perpetual three day growth of beard.

Some people don't like it, but it conforms to the code.
 
I work at a tiny company. We don't have a dress code. That said, I wear a tie because I like ties and because I fucking can. Of course that makes me terribly overdressed, but fuck my colleagues, I like to dress well ;)
 
If I do ever decide to wear a tie, it will be loose, and I will not button the top button. II have yet to find one that doesn't choke me.

This means your neck size is at least 1/2 size to small. Have you got a Men's Wearhouse, Dillard's, JCPenney, or Van Huesen store anywhere near you?
 
If I do ever decide to wear a tie, it will be loose, and I will not button the top button. II have yet to find one that doesn't choke me.

This means your neck size is at least 1/2 size to small. Have you got a Men's Wearhouse, Dillard's, JCPenney, or Van Huesen store anywhere near you?

Ditto this. Go to a gentlemen's outfitters/ good menswear store and get your neck and sleeve measurements checked.

FWIW, neither my husband or 2 younger sons fit "standard" shirt collar/sleeve length combinations - being very tall & slim. These are known as "fractional fittings" here in Aus.

Here, Van Heusen shirts are available in fractional fittings.
 
If I do ever decide to wear a tie, it will be loose, and I will not button the top button. II have yet to find one that doesn't choke me.

This means your neck size is at least 1/2 size to small. Have you got a Men's Wearhouse, Dillard's, JCPenney, or Van Huesen store anywhere near you?

More like 1/4 size. Clothes don't fit me. I can buy pants with a 34 or 36 inch waste, but based on the pants that I try on, I am clearly a 35, which doesn't exist.

Collars in general I just find uncomfortable if buttoned up all the way, whether they're half a size too small, half a size too big, or the "correct" size. I just dislike the way it feels.

Regardless, this place seems to not really give a shit about that, so it's all good.
 
^BTW, "business casual" means differerent things depending on where you are in the US. Where you are it probably means polo shirts, Dockers, and Rockports.

Over here it means jeans, a bola tie, and a Stetson.
 
I realize that there are a lot of definitions of "business casual," but I can't imagine any reasonable definition would include a tie.
 
This thread makes me glad I work at a place where we all wear whatever we normally do. I can do my job in jeans shorts and a tie-died t-shirt shirt with tigers silkscreened on it and no one gives a fuck. :D
 
Heh.. my normal wear is a shirt and trousers and shoes. I actually struggle more in a place where everyone wore t-shirts and trainers.
 
This thread makes me glad I work at a place where we all wear whatever we normally do. I can do my job in jeans shorts and a tie-died t-shirt shirt with tigers silkscreened on it and no one gives a fuck. :D
Well I'd be glad if we had some sort of dresscode. I could do without male coworkers wearing shorts and sandals in the office. I don't know, maybe I'm old-fashioned.
 
I guess I don't see what's supposed to be so great about formal wear. Is it really such a problem for folks to wear what's comfortable?
 
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