Sounds like Earth2 but with the shoe on the other foot.
British culture's already diverse, comes from having the largest empire the world's ever known.
Outcasts (BBC) series 1 discussion thread
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Sounds like Earth2 but with the shoe on the other foot.
British culture's already diverse, comes from having the largest empire the world's ever known.
I like the series but I really hate the lens flares. They're distracting. I also find it extremely frustrating that I only understand two thirds of the dialogue but I guess that's what you get for being a dirty foreigner.
Yeah, lens flare bugs me too which is odd because it didn't in Star Trek.
You're lucky we deign to let you understand even that much.
Lens flares? Aside from a few in the establishing "montage" and in the "next time" trailer (which I really do think are the best bit of each show) I didnt notice much at all.
Then again, I spent a good part of this episode surfing the net on my laptop. It just failed to grab me. The characters are interesting enough, but the stories just feel like the same old shit just filmed in South Africa instead of Hollywood or Canada. Plus, it doesnt help that they've kept the back story so damn vague that we have no reference point as to whats happening. I had to look at this thread to find out its set in 2040, which, being only 29 years away seems to be a really shit move. That in and of itself killed a lot of the suspension of disbelief.
Then again, I spent a good part of this episode surfing the net on my laptop. It just failed to grab me. The characters are interesting enough, but the stories just feel like the same old shit just filmed in South Africa instead of Hollywood or Canada. Plus, it doesnt help that they've kept the back story so damn vague that we have no reference point as to whats happening. I had to look at this thread to find out its set in 2040, which, being only 29 years away seems to be a really shit move. That in and of itself killed a lot of the suspension of disbelief.
I think not saying exactly when it is set is actually a good move, and so is keeping the back story of what's happening on Earth vague. You avoid appearing dated in a few year's time (like all the sci-fi movies/shows where the Soviet Union exists beyond 1989) and it allows you to add details to the backstory later on if you desire (ok, given the not so great viewing figures, this is probably a moot point).
But even if they did shout from the rooftops that it's 2040, it wouldn't bug me that much. Then again, I'm somewhat desensitised in that regard due to Doctor Who with its extensive (British) space flight program in the 1970s among other things. So far, the story's still gripping me.
But even if they did shout from the rooftops that it's 2040, it wouldn't bug me that much. Then again, I'm somewhat desensitised in that regard due to Doctor Who with its extensive (British) space flight program in the 1970s among other things. So far, the story's still gripping me.
I managed to catch the first two episodes, and I'd agree with The Times reviewer who said the actors were quite earnest. A little too earnest perhaps.
As with most BBC science fiction, it all seems a little too cosy. Perhaps it'll get more of an uneasy edge later on. I'm away from a TV weekdays for a bit, it has time to build up that way.
I don't get why they had the girl shoot Jamie Bamber in the pilot only to try to make her sympathetic in the rest of the show. It's just inconsistent characterization.
The rest of it is very blah. I think Fake Baltar might be the worse of the lot though.
At least I still kind of buy the concept and hey, it's half over I guess.
The rest of it is very blah. I think Fake Baltar might be the worse of the lot though.
At least I still kind of buy the concept and hey, it's half over I guess.
What? Someone can't be a sympathetic character and a killer? Someone can't have a good reason for killing someone else? Her reason for killing him seemed sound to me. She he'd killed her friend, kidnapped the son, was threatening to destabilise the system and was willing to kill anyone in his way. How is it inconsistent that she is actually a sympathetic character?
Considering how quickly they push the relationship between her and... I dunno, I'm going to call him Fake Paul Atredies for now, it just seems strange.
Here's a dude that was essentially willing to affect the change that she seems to be somewhat invested in (at least, that seems to be the direction they keep pushing the character - especially in this last episode) and you introduce her character by having her kill him? I dunno, I just feel like she should get what she deserves - or at least show some remorse for essentially escalating the conflict in the first place.
If they're trying to go for the "everyone's an asshole" characterization that was so popular on BSG and SG:U, I guess they're "succeeding" in that bad SciFi kind of way? But they're a far cry from the flawed characters likes Vic from The Shield... or even Gene Hunt, if that's what they're trying to go for with the whole moral ambiguity angle.
I guess that's just a long way of saying that they're trying to make me root for a character that I really want to see die or at least punished - and that's because they actually made Bamber's character somewhat sympathetic by depicting him as a man who had to live with the demons of being forced to commit an atrocity.
Here's a dude that was essentially willing to affect the change that she seems to be somewhat invested in (at least, that seems to be the direction they keep pushing the character - especially in this last episode) and you introduce her character by having her kill him? I dunno, I just feel like she should get what she deserves - or at least show some remorse for essentially escalating the conflict in the first place.
If they're trying to go for the "everyone's an asshole" characterization that was so popular on BSG and SG:U, I guess they're "succeeding" in that bad SciFi kind of way? But they're a far cry from the flawed characters likes Vic from The Shield... or even Gene Hunt, if that's what they're trying to go for with the whole moral ambiguity angle.
I guess that's just a long way of saying that they're trying to make me root for a character that I really want to see die or at least punished - and that's because they actually made Bamber's character somewhat sympathetic by depicting him as a man who had to live with the demons of being forced to commit an atrocity.
^To be fair I don't know what I'm talking about, I haven't seen half the 3rd or any of the 4th.
The fourth episode was pretty meh -- I sort of half watched it while doing something else. A couple of scenes near the end were kind of intriguing but unless they go somewhere with those soon, it's all a bit of a drag.
Hah, well, admittedly I'm sure they didn't expect me to sympathize with Mitchel/Jamie Bamber. I probably wouldn't hate the girl as much as I do if that didn't happen.
Damn it, last night's episode didn't record. I'll have to watch on iPlayer.
Mabius came into my work today. Quite unapproachable. Unfortunate.
Clearly American though, both in person and on the show.
Here's to hoping we see a few more folks from other countries in the remaining episodes. Think of the potential of a new ship coming along full of Chinese or some such. Give me conflict that isn't completely contrived for plot reasons.
Clearly American though, both in person and on the show.
Here's to hoping we see a few more folks from other countries in the remaining episodes. Think of the potential of a new ship coming along full of Chinese or some such. Give me conflict that isn't completely contrived for plot reasons.
What a shame. I've been looking forward to this for 3 and a half years, they have a second series planned and this one ends on a cliffhanger.
If the show ends on a cliffhanger, I think I will stop watching now.
Its bad enough I'm not getting a ending for fringe or SGU with out my UK shows doing the same.
Fringe has been cancelled? Bummer, I was enjoying it.
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