Outcasts (BBC) series 1 discussion thread
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Just watched ep 1 on my Sky +, wow, "unimpressed" doesn't even come close to doing it justice.
It looked so cheap and was acted so badly with clunky dialogue I was frankly embarrassed.
Oh and is...
I've got ep 2 to watch later, but if that doesn't bowl me over in goodness then I have zero interest in wasting my time watching any more
It looked so cheap and was acted so badly with clunky dialogue I was frankly embarrassed.
Oh and is...
is that it for Jamie Bamber? Is he really dead? My mancrush on him was pretty much the only interest I had in this to begin with
I've got ep 2 to watch later, but if that doesn't bowl me over in goodness then I have zero interest in wasting my time watching any more
Episode 2 is better -- I'll probably stick it out just to see if the mysteries pay off. If they turn out to be J J Abrams shaggy dog stories, mcguffins, or other hooey that don't get resolved, I'll be pissed off.
If Bambi doesn't return, I'll be sort of impressed that they chose to kill off his character so early, but also kind of puzzled.
I'm not surprised that the numbers for the second episode dropped. The few people that I talked to yesterday about the show were completely unaware that it was on again last night. I'll be interested to see what happens to next Monday's episode, I suspect that some people will be tuning in expecting to see episode 2.
The acting is fine but the characters seem a bit incompetent in their approach to their problems. If they're not careful we could find ourselves shouting at the TV screen at how dense some of them are.
What would be intriguing is if they take the one night stand from the first episode and actually do something with it. It could be a bit 'Moonlighting' but I think a bit more Irish chirpyness to offset most of the characters' general grimness could work.
What would be intriguing is if they take the one night stand from the first episode and actually do something with it. It could be a bit 'Moonlighting' but I think a bit more Irish chirpyness to offset most of the characters' general grimness could work.
Are the people in Forthaven really supposed to be the best and the brightest of Earth, or are they outcasts as well (latterday Pilgrim Fathers)?
i get the impression they're just a random grab-bag of people who wanted to get away from the shit-hole Earth apparently became.
as for the show, i kinda like it. it's not great, but it's not crap. it seems to have potential though...
the orange Glocks and white L85/SA80s made me
too...
as for the show, i kinda like it. it's not great, but it's not crap. it seems to have potential though...
the orange Glocks and white L85/SA80s made me
too...
the orange Glocks and white L85/SA80s made me
Didn't bother me as I know nothing about guns other than they're used to put holes in people.
I think it looks fantastic visually. I'm having trouble understanding all of the dialogue due to the accents, so I might be missing some pieces of the puzzle. It's rather depressing, though, isn't it?
Depressing is a great British sci-fi tradition. Well a great British tradition in general. We do like our stories to be down and depressing, and just when you think there's a ray of light they whip the rug from under your feet to show it's actually still depressing
Yeah, I know. I deluded myself into believing that was just Terry Nation's speciality. 
I hope they don't overdo it like BSG which descended into melodrama pretty quickly.
I hope they don't overdo it like BSG which descended into melodrama pretty quickly.
Yeah, I know. I deluded myself into believing that was just Terry Nation's speciality.
I hope they don't overdo it like BSG which descended into melodrama pretty quickly.
Funnily enough I never thought BSG was really depressing, not when compared to the level of depressing we go in for anyway.
I assume the colour marked it out as an offical gun, it also means people know when they are being carried.the orange Glocks and white L85/SA80s made me
Its actually odd to see such free use of guns on a UK show, well a UK show that isnt Spooks at any rate.
The two episodes did make me think of BSG as well, but I was never really a fan of BSG, so ill look beyond that.
I don't think Outcasts is anywhere near as devoid of joy as BSG was. Somebody really should have tole Ron Moore that even in the most horrible of situations people manage to have fun, because without that what's the point in surviving?
I refered to BSG today as DS9 with all the fun sucked out of it...my friend countered that BSG was DS9 for adults... I suspect each of us would have plenty of people agreeing with them!
I refered to BSG today as DS9 with all the fun sucked out of it...my friend countered that BSG was DS9 for adults... I suspect each of us would have plenty of people agreeing with them!
The problem with BSG, in my eyes, is that it had that American unreality to it. Most things on American TV just has no real sense of reality to it. Whether it's everyone living in a huge house or trying so hard to be grown up it comes across as funny.
Not saying all of our shows are any better but I find a lot of our shows can feel more realistic than that. Maybe it's just familiarity with the British way of life than the American way.
To be honest it might just be that for all the "we're becoming like America" stuff we are still culturally very different in lots of ways.
I had kinda an odd relationship with NuBSG, I took a long time to like because I really did love the original show and it did seem wrong to reboot it. I started to like it shortly before I realised that the producers didn't know what they were doing, didn't have a plan, were making it up as they went along (and recycling more than a hint of Deep Space 9 in the process) and were willing to chuck their principles and pretensions at not being like AN Other sci-fi in the bin whenever they needed to, and then gave us an ending that most people who'd watched an episode of the Twilight Zone or read a Tharg's Future Shock or two saw coming from the moment the show started, and I really hoped they wouldn't go there, but they did!
In spite of all this I do actually like the show, but its not a show I could ever love!
I had kinda an odd relationship with NuBSG, I took a long time to like because I really did love the original show and it did seem wrong to reboot it. I started to like it shortly before I realised that the producers didn't know what they were doing, didn't have a plan, were making it up as they went along (and recycling more than a hint of Deep Space 9 in the process) and were willing to chuck their principles and pretensions at not being like AN Other sci-fi in the bin whenever they needed to, and then gave us an ending that most people who'd watched an episode of the Twilight Zone or read a Tharg's Future Shock or two saw coming from the moment the show started, and I really hoped they wouldn't go there, but they did!
In spite of all this I do actually like the show, but its not a show I could ever love!
You see it was the other way for me, I was never really a fan of the original, liked the pilot, loved 33 and thought most of the first season and half were very good, after that it started losing its way but was alright for the rest of the show but that ending meant I could never lover it. I would have preferred if it'd ended when they found the destroyed Earth, over what we got.
I'd completely agree with that, that should have been the ending. Earth's a radioactive wasteland, but you know what there are plenty of planets out there for us as we will find a home...
The End!
That would have at least had a tinge of originality about it!
On the plus side though at least they didn't arrive on Earth in 1980 so we should be grateful for small mercies
The End!
That would have at least had a tinge of originality about it!
On the plus side though at least they didn't arrive on Earth in 1980 so we should be grateful for small mercies
I'd completely agree with that, that should have been the ending. Earth's a radioactive wasteland, but you know what there are plenty of planets out there for us as we will find a home...
The End!
That would have at least had a tinge of originality about it!
On the plus side though at least they didn't arrive on Earth in 1980 so we should be grateful for small mercies
They should have arrived in 1980, realised the human race were horrible and let the cylons wipe us out.
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