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I Want to Get Married

What, use the services of a working girl?

There are definite advantages to that. In the long term, you save money, and you get all the benefits of a relationship without the unnecessary stuff like having to talk to them or having 'feelings' about things.
 
What, use the services of a working girl?

There are definite advantages to that. In the long term, you save money, and you get all the benefits of a relationship without the unnecessary stuff like having to talk to them or having 'feelings' about things.

Not all the benefits... a hooker isn't there when you come home from work, and doesn't go to bed and wake up with you every morning. Plus a hooker's love is fake.

I want all that "unnecessary stuff" that comes with a relationship, like talking to them and such.
 
Yes. No lame pick up lines, period. I made small talk with hubby, he made small talk with me, we asked each other questions. We got to know it each other; it was nice.

Compare this to a guy I worked with back in Austin. We worked with our desks next to each; there were dozens of us crammed into a small room. We would all chat,as a group, and have a good time on our lunch break. One day, I'm in the copy room, and he comes in behind me and said "Did I ever tell you how much red heads turn me on?" and blocks my way by putting his arm across the door. At this point, I don't think he even knew my last name.

See, if he had said, "I heard that you really liked movies. I like to going to the movies, too. Want to meet up for a movie on Saturday?" I would have said "Sure!" But no. Instead he went straight to being "creepy office guy," and I never spoke to him again.

Don't be that guy. Lead with starting a conversation. Have fun and be friends first. Don't use a "Hey, baby, come here often?" line. Just be yourself. Like, "Hey, our lunch breaks are at the same time. Wanna go grab a pizza? I heard you went to such and such College. Did you like it? I went to (wherever)." Share information as you ask her about herself. It becomes a conversation. You might even find that you don't like someone that much and just keep it friendly.

If you try to force something, which I have done, it sends the other person running for their lives. I know I scared away more than a few guys by trying too hard. No one finds the stink of desperation attractive. Just be yourself. Confidence, kindness and mutual interests are what attracts people, and makes them want to continue the relationship.

Okay, aye, that I can totally understand, and agree with... I totally would not have done what creepy guy did, lol... and the whole blocking the door... WTF is that? LOL... that's such a 1970's "I know when a woman says no she really means yes" backward attitude, LOL... yeah, definitely don't be that guy. I can't stand men who pull that shit, because they frak it up for the rest of us.

Who am I? Well, I'm kind of old-fashioned... I am from the school that believes that a when introduced to a lady, the man should kiss the back of her hand, pull the chair out for her, and open doors for her. He should stand up if she leaves the table to use the restroom. But IDK if that kind of stuff is still welcome in these modern times, lol.
 
^I'd go with everything but kissing the hand. If someone I hardly knew kissed my hand, I'd think "Eeewwww. Germs!" :lol:

Even after almost 7 years of marriage, hubby still opens the door for me (assuming he reaches it first). I think it's sweet.
 
I think you just need to get to know the woman. I know some who love that sort of thing, and others who feel extremely awkward having men open doors for them. For me personally I like having doors held open and that's about my limit.

I was at dinner with a bunch of friends once and every time I went to get up or sit down, one of the guys would pull my chair out for me. It was really awkward, especially considering that my husband was sitting right there and not doing a thing. :lol:
 
Let's get some hard facts in here - yes yes, appearance isn't everything but it's a big point in if someone decides if they are going to give you the time of day, it gets your foot in the door. You are 35 or nearly right? That's how old I am - look around, a lot of guys our ages are slobs, big guts, look like they get dressed in the dark.

I'm a average looking guy but I'm trim and look like I wash everyday, I'm don't struggle for female interest. A lot of guys I went to school with who were consider more handsome than me now look like hamsters, they become invisible to women.
 
What, use the services of a working girl?

There are definite advantages to that. In the long term, you save money, and you get all the benefits of a relationship without the unnecessary stuff like having to talk to them or having 'feelings' about things.

Not all the benefits... a hooker isn't there when you come home from work, and doesn't go to bed and wake up with you every morning. Plus a hooker's love is fake.

I want all that "unnecessary stuff" that comes with a relationship, like talking to them and such.

ok i understand. my comment wasnt really appropriate in the context of this thread.

good luck with your journey :)
 
That story about the guy who gets 'turned on by red heads' reminded me of how much I hate the world. Thanks for that.

No, but seriously, that's pretty creepy but that sort of stuff does go on all over the place even today and even in the more liberal countries. These men are living in fantasy worlds where some misty, sultry song starts playing in the backs of their brains and they expect everyone else to comply with the 'tempo' of their delusions.
 
One suggestion. If you are serious about not wanting children be very very very upfront about it. It is possible for women to go into a relationship thinking some day they will change the man's mind on this topic. Sometimes they are just deluding themselves and sometimes they got mixed signals from the man in the first place. If a woman asks you, "So, do you think like maybe in the future, if you were really really happy.. and had a great job.. and a great house.. you might want to maybe have a kid, like, someday?" and in reply you just sort of grunt (probably lost her at the "great job" part) she will take this as you being potentially malleable on this topic.

If you want to be completely clear about it call yourself "child free", learn the child free movement lingo and maybe even consider seeing what kind of child free socializing you could hook up with on meet-up or whatever. Do not back off or gloss over this as an important thing to you if you think it is somehow offputting to a woman you are interested in.. because if it's offputting to her that you don't want kids then there is a reason for it. Also be wary of someone a lot younger than you, people's feelings on this topic often change dramatically. You're better off with someone your age or older who had already spent a lot of years with this decision (the decision being often a bigger one for women).
 
That's a great suggestion, teacake. If things ever go south with my girlfriend and I and I'm put in a position where I start looking again, I'm going to remember you said that since I'm "child free".
 
Take my advice, be patient. I waited 7 years for the right woman to come along, and that was after I gave up consciously trying to find a lady. We met at work after she started asking me to help her with eyedrops, I had no idea she liked me at all.

Also, don't worry about how good you look. I look like Milhouses older, geekier brother with a broken nose but my girlfriend is stunning. She sees past that to the lovable Trekkie within, plus I'm quite funny in social situations - so I'm told, which she also liked.

You won't get anyone to love you until you feel comfortable in your own skin. I think the 'no kids' thing may work against you. A womans instinct/drive to bear children can be very strong indeed (except for my sister for some reason).

Just relax, it will happen. Better to leave it till you're 40 than rush into something now.
 
if relationships were a priority for me at this time, a hiking group would be my first stop. :cool:

Mine, too. :bolian:

^

Yeah, I'm not big on internet dating sites, mostly for the reason that I refuse to pay for the right to communicate with a woman... if things get so bad where I'll pay money to find a female, I may as well... well, you know, lol.

Two thoughts: One, unless they're giving drinks away for free these days, every time you go to a bar primarily in hopes of meeting a female, you're paying to communicate w/ her. And, two, I think what you are paying for on-line is the opportunity to meet women whom you wouldn't run into in real life (for geographic or other reasons).
 
I was at dinner with a bunch of friends once and every time I went to get up or sit down, one of the guys would pull my chair out for me.

Can I push in your stool for you?
 
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