It was attachment that could lead to fear and the Dark Side. A pretty extreme view, but it was a theme in The Empire Strikes Back that Luke should be willing to let Han & Leia be tortured or killed rather than try to rescue them before he was ready, not just in terms of raw power but in control of his emotions; this is a bit inconsistent with Jedi as there he wasn't scolded for rescuing them and his "attachment" to Vader (or, moreso, Anakin's to him) proved helpful.
Is the Star Wars saga better with Episodes I to III or worse?
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It was attachment that could lead to fear and the Dark Side. A pretty extreme view, but it was a theme in The Empire Strikes Back that Luke should be willing to let Han & Leia be tortured or killed rather than try to rescue them before he was ready, not just in terms of raw power but in control of his emotions; this is a bit inconsistent with Jedi as there he wasn't scolded for rescuing them and his "attachment" to Vader (or, moreso, Anakin's to him) proved helpful.
Arguably (although based on human experience anger-leading-to-fear is a rhetorical stretch).
So what?
Good point. I don't hate the PT so much, because of TCW, which is proving there was a good story in the PT all along, struggling to get out from under Lucas' terrible writing, directing and casting decisions.
To be detached from the suffering of others also sounds pretty evil to me. But I guess what they really mean is that the Force is too much power for anyone with normal emotions to handle. Even good and noble emotions can cause unwise actions. Love could lead to the Dark Side just as much as fear could.
Let's say someone gets enraged by injustice and uses the Force unwisely as a result. Was that person "bad" for being enraged by injustice? Of course not. They're a better person than if they're blase about injustice. But they just shouldn't use the Force, that's all. It's like letting a baby play with fire.
What never gets mentioned is that, the way things are set up, practically nobody can be trusted to use the Force. PT Anakin is obviously a headcase and should have been booted out of the Jedi Order immediately. But the other Jedi I've seen show some emotion. Why is it okay for them to use the Force?
Even worse, the Jedi are thrown into warfare, which is renowned for creating strong bonds of loyalty between soldiers. The Jedi are supposed to fight a war, yet if their buddy gets offed, their response is a shrug. Only a robot with no emotions at all could be trusted to use the Force, or someone who has trained themselves to be so unemotional and detached, they're not really human anymore.
Plus, if they have no attachments, what are they fighting for? They wouldn't care if the resident political system were an Empire or a Republic. Such matters are beneath their notice. Then, the only reason to fight is to help maintain the balance between Dark and Light - that is the only thing that can still have a hold on their loyalty. And they'll fight to achieve that balance regardless of any other consideration. If they need to fight against justice, or the Republic, they'd do that. The balance is all that matters.
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It makes perfect sense, the fact that you can play rhetorical tricks with it notwithstanding.
Either you get what the writer's saying or you don't - it's not complicated - but the shortcoming isn't his. That remark is, as I said, one of the few worthwhile observations in the SW saga.
I do get what they're going for, and obviously it's not complicated. Don't try to insult me in a roundabout fashion. My point is that it's hardly any sort of wisdom when you can just switch those emotions around and still have it make sense. None of those emotions necessarily, logically, follow the others.
If I see a deadly snake, the fear of that snake will cause me to get the hell away from it, possibly saving my life
Now how would that have then led to anger???
Now how would that have then led to anger???
Think of the Germans before WWII they were afraid as a nation following WWI, then Hitler came along and said that they should blame everybody else for their situation which led to things like the death camps and the Holocaust. And Palpatine's rise mirrors that of Hitler and Julius Caesar. Anyway Anakin's fear led to his hatred for the Jedi which in turn led to suffering.
Pretty basic - look up "fight or flight" just for starters.
^^Exactly. The best way to think about the chain of emotions in "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering." is that this same sequence of emotions leads to racism and all the nastiness that goes along with it.
First you fear "the Other" because they are different. You have to turn that fear into anger so the fear doesn't debilitate you. The anger quickly becomes hate which leads to to inflicting suffering on others or yourself.
Its basically a positive feedback mechanism where the greater your fear the greater your anger, hate and suffering will be.
First you fear "the Other" because they are different. You have to turn that fear into anger so the fear doesn't debilitate you. The anger quickly becomes hate which leads to to inflicting suffering on others or yourself.
Its basically a positive feedback mechanism where the greater your fear the greater your anger, hate and suffering will be.
Bishop - as bad as 3 and 4 are, the behind the scenes documentaries make a purchase actually worthwhile! Although they could have gone further in exposing Fox's idiocy in the making of 3, the whole thing is actually really quite candid and honest(certainly moreso than you might expect)in placing the blame on suits and studio demands.
I consider the entire Aliens quadrilogy set(I only have DVD at this point - do not own a BR player yet)to be second only to the LOTR EE's in terms of sheer quality of behind the scenes features.
Yeah, I have seen a lot of that stuff on Alien 3 just through different sources and it's fascinating to watch something with promise just completely unravel and turn into the low budget POS that it became. And I still remember the BS promise of the teaser trailer... "On Earth everyone can hear you scream" - oh wait, what we meant was on Fiorina 161 like maybe 10 prisoners can hear you scream...
I think maybe it's time to grab that new quadrilogy, though. I'd like to see what exactly went wrong with Resurrection.
Exactly. Stoklasa is nothing more than a douche.
The RLM guy? Fuck no, he's a God! Everything he says is spot on. In fact, I think he was sent straight from heaven to teach us puny hoomaans a thing or two about logic, common sense, and even politics.
And all this has absolutely nothing to do with him being a failed filmmaker.
He's kinda funny, though. When he's not being obnoxious and annoying, that is.
Well, he's not for everyone, but I really enjoy the fucked up sense of humor and his insight into filmmaking is pretty solid unless you're a prequel apologist. I'm not sure that I would call him failed though - he's turned down some solid offers after his Internet success - I think he just likes being independent.
I voted "better" because I think the PT is enjoyable and pretty cool most of the time. Granted, it has its flaws but I think a lot of people just nit-pick the thing to death. To me, any flaws are easily overlooked due to all the greatness contained within. In fact, when I first saw these films I thought that they were pretty much flawless. Then again I was young and impressionable so maybe I'm biased.
One of my college roommates was also a big star wars nut and we would watch the prequels all the time and had no complaints. Plus without the PT there would be no Battlefront or ROTS video games that me and my friends enjoyed playing.
One of my college roommates was also a big star wars nut and we would watch the prequels all the time and had no complaints. Plus without the PT there would be no Battlefront or ROTS video games that me and my friends enjoyed playing.
Who's Stoklasa?
