Star TreK: VI - "ReMastered"?

[Trekker4747]

Okay, say they ever decide to go back and, yet again, re-do Star Trek VI for BD or whatever. Keep the movie the same but just make one change that should be, fairly, "easy" to do.

Make. The. Klingon Blood. RED!

It was only made into Pepto so that the MPAA wouldn't cry itself in the corner by looking at all of the floating CGI red blood and have to give the movie an R-Rating. It's not be consistently portrayed in the other shows and movies and, well, it's just stupid to begin with.

New cut of TUC otherwise exactly same as the theatrical release only make the Klingon blood red! There. Done. Do it!

 

[Mytran]

What about Colonel Worf's line at the end of the film:

This is not Klingon Blood

It gives the clue to unmask the assassin!

 

[JarodRussell]

Klingon blood is purple. It's even part of the storyline. It's canon both in visuals, story and dialogue. To this day, all other episodes have contradicted this only visually. Hence, Klingon blood is purple.

 

[Expo67]

Honestly, I think Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country is fine the way it is. Granted, I may be biased in that opinion(because STVI-TUC is my personal favorite out of the original series films), but I state this as looking at it from an artistic viewpoint(in terms of what JarodRussell described as canon related).

I don't think it needs to be re-mastered. I think it's just fine the way it is.

 

[Christopher]

Remastering doesn't mean changing. That's the exact opposite of what the word means. Remastering is making a new print directly from the original master print. It is routinely done whenever an old film is rereleased on video, since it gives the best quality and fidelity to the original image.

And there's no need to change the color of Klingon blood any more than there's a need to digitally add forehead ridges to the TOS Klingons or to reconcile all the different depictions of Vulcan from space. This isn't a documentary, it's a series of fictional works that present the conceit of occupying a single shared reality but that each apply their own artistic license to the representation of that conjectural reality. If you have different art students paint the same model or still life, each painting is going to differ in its details, and that's the way it should be. It's a matter of interpretation and individual style. Heaven forbid that the artistic expression of the individual creator be bulldozed in the misguided pursuit of uniformity.

Besides, we have smooth-headed Klingons with swarthy skin and bifurcated eyebrows ("Errand of Mercy," "Day of the Dove"), we have smooth-headed Klingons that look entirely human ("The Trouble with Tribbles," "Friday's Child"), we have Klingons with a single spinelike ridge down the middle of the head (TMP), we have Klingons with broad bony forehead plates and smooth noses (TSFS), we have Klingons with broad bony forehead plates and ridged noses (Westmore-style), and we have Klingons with smaller, rounder forehead plates with diverse central ridges and smooth noses (TVH-TUC). With all those variant subspecies, why couldn't some of them have different-colored blood than the others?

 

[Dukhat]

Okay, say they ever decide to go back and, yet again, re-do Star Trek VI for BD or whatever. Keep the movie the same but just make one change that should be, fairly, "easy" to do.

Make. The. Klingon Blood. RED!

It was only made into Pepto so that the MPAA wouldn't cry itself in the corner by looking at all of the floating CGI red blood and have to give the movie an R-Rating. It's not be consistently portrayed in the other shows and movies and, well, it's just stupid to begin with.

New cut of TUC otherwise exactly same as the theatrical release only make the Klingon blood red! There. Done. Do it!

Why would they waste time and money doing something like that when the only person who cares about it is you?

Seriously, Jarod Russell is correct. Klingon blood is purple, because that's what the script needed it to be (MPAA notwithstanding). The scripts for any other TNG episode featuring Klingons showing their blood didn't require it to be purple, so it wasn't. Unless you want to believe that when Klingons show red blood, that episode is actually taking place in an alternate universe, which seems to be the rage in thinking with some people here.

 

[Expo67]

Remastering doesn't mean changing. That's the exact opposite of what the word means. Remastering is making a new print directly from the original master print. It is routinely done whenever an old film is rereleased on video, since it gives the best quality and fidelity to the original image.

And there's no need to change the color of Klingon blood any more than there's a need to digitally add forehead ridges to the TOS Klingons or to reconcile all the different depictions of Vulcan from space. This isn't a documentary, it's a series of fictional works that present the conceit of occupying a single shared reality but that each apply their own artistic license to the representation of that conjectural reality. If you have different art students paint the same model or still life, each painting is going to differ in its details, and that's the way it should be. It's a matter of interpretation and individual style. Heaven forbid that the artistic expression of the individual creator be bulldozed in the misguided pursuit of uniformity.

Besides, we have smooth-headed Klingons with swarthy skin and bifurcated eyebrows ("Errand of Mercy," "Day of the Dove"), we have smooth-headed Klingons that look entirely human ("The Trouble with Tribbles," "Friday's Child"), we have Klingons with a single spinelike ridge down the middle of the head (TMP), we have Klingons with broad bony forehead plates and smooth noses (TSFS), we have Klingons with broad bony forehead plates and ridged noses (Westmore-style), and we have Klingons with smaller, rounder forehead plates with diverse central ridges and smooth noses (TVH-TUC). With all those variant subspecies, why couldn't some of them have different-colored blood than the others?

You do have a point there, and I stand corrected.

While I'm thinking about it, I enjoyed your Star Trek adventure Ex Machina. I was very impressed with the story and how it developed. Most of all, the backgrounds you had given the secondary characters(i.e. Edward Logan, Gerry Auberson, Reiko Onami, and various others). My only complaint was the conflict between Onami and McCoy. I think Onami overstepped her boundaries.

Nevertheless, I still enjoyed the story. Even though I'm many years late in saying this, my congradulations to you sir, for crafting an excellent Star Trek adventure. Keep up the good work.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I think Onami overstepped her boundaries.

Did you notice her on the bridge in ST:TMP (played by Momo Yashima). She was a feisty one! (She's telling off the Rhaandarite ensign - "What's the problem here!")

 

[Christopher]

I think that McCoy in a similar situation would've been just as contemptuous of "boundaries" as Onami was. People get defensive about her attitude because she was critical of a fan-favorite character, McCoy himself, but McCoy would be the first to recognize the value of a gadfly, a critic who's not afraid to speak truth to power and keep people honest. McCoy and Onami clashed because they were so similar.

 

[Therin of Andor]

McCoy would be the first to recognize the value of a gadfly, a critic who's not afraid to speak truth to power and keep people honest. McCoy and Onami clashed because they were so similar.

True, and she may have been handpicked by Dr Chapel because her attitude reminded Chapel of an old colleague.

 

[FormerLurker]

The biggest change needed in a home video release of STVI is the restoration of the deleted Kirk line "I'm still the Captain," from just after the Enterprise leaves Spacedock that was in the theatrical release.

 

[Oso Blanco]

The biggest change needed in a home video release of STVI is the restoration of the deleted Kirk line "I'm still the Captain," from just after the Enterprise leaves Spacedock that was in the theatrical release.

And that line wasn't in either of the DVD releases?

 

[Expo67]

I think Onami overstepped her boundaries.

Did you notice her on the bridge in ST:TMP (played by Momo Yashima). She was a feisty one! (She's telling off the Rhaandarite ensign - "What's the problem here!")

I noticed her. It's hard not to notice such extreme feminine beauty mixed with such feistiness.

Even though McCoy and Onami were similar in some ways, I think Reiko should have adapted a more respectful attitude toward Bones.

Even in the late 23rd Century, there is still such an old fashioned value known as 'respect for one's elders'.

 

[Christopher]

^Well, think about it. If McCoy had been the junior officer confronting a superior whose limitations he considered a danger to the safety of the crew, do you think McCoy would let considerations of "respect" keep him from speaking his mind?

 

[Expo67]

No, he honestly wouldn't. Knowing McCoy, he would speak his mind, regardless of how old his superior was.

I understand where you are coming from, Christopher. However, the situation between McCoy and Onami(at least how I view it)was far from one that would be a danger to the crew.

Yes, Spring Rain was in terminal danger, but if I remember correctly, it was only by accident. Onami did have the wrong impression of McCoy at first, considering him a bigot(which Chapel thankfully proved her wrong by giving her that stern lecture). That kind of extreme viewpoint obviously clouded Onami's judgement, and given the emotions of the moment, made her cross that line, when she lashed out at Bones.

Granted Bones did not know much about Spring Rain's physiology. But, it is not his fault.

Honestly, I think Reiko passed judgement on McCoy too soon. She did not get all of the facts in before making such a judgement call.

However, that's my view of the situation. Others may look at the McCoy/Onami dispute differently.

 

[Christopher]

Yes, Spring Rain was in terminal danger, but if I remember correctly, it was only by accident.
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Granted Bones did not know much about Spring Rain's physiology. But, it is not his fault.

What happened to her initially was an accident, but the subsequent delay in treatment was a result of McCoy's unfamiliarity with her species. Spring Rain couldn't breathe. Oxygen wasn't getting to her brain. In a case like that, the longer you delay treatment, the worse the brain damage gets. Every second counts. Had Chapel been CMO, handling the case from the start, she would've begun treatment far faster and possibly prevented a coma. And at the point when Onami lashed out at McCoy, it was unknown whether Spring Rain would ever wake up. For all anyone knew, his delay might've killed her.

And McCoy himself agreed that Onami was right to call him on his insufficient knowledge. The incident prompted him to renew his studies of comparative alien physiology so that it wouldn't happen again. And as we know from Voyager, he eventually became expert enough in that subject to literally write the book on it.

 

[Expo67]

I remember that part now. And you are correct that the delay would have probably caused more brain damage. Let alone killed her.

Despite all of those tense moments, I'm glad that McCoy and Onami resolved their differences in the end. Even though I still think Reiko crossed the line(Chapel should have reprimanded her a second time), you are correct that had the circumstances been different, McCoy would have reacted the same way.

Thanks for refreshing my memory on that one plot point.

 

[Indysolo]

The biggest change needed in a home video release of STVI is the restoration of the deleted Kirk line "I'm still the Captain," from just after the Enterprise leaves Spacedock that was in the theatrical release.

Non sequitur, your facts are uncoordinated. I've seen 35mm prints after watching the video release and that line is not and has not been in the movie.

Neil

 

[BillJ]

The biggest change needed in a home video release of STVI is the restoration of the deleted Kirk line "I'm still the Captain," from just after the Enterprise leaves Spacedock that was in the theatrical release.

Non sequitur, your facts are uncoordinated. I've seen 35mm prints after watching the video release and that line is not and has not been in the movie.

Neil

I saw the movie several times at the theater and don't remember that line either.

 

[JarodRussell]

The biggest change needed in a home video release of STVI is the restoration of the deleted Kirk line "I'm still the Captain," from just after the Enterprise leaves Spacedock that was in the theatrical release.

Non sequitur, your facts are uncoordinated. I've seen 35mm prints after watching the video release and that line is not and has not been in the movie.

Neil

I saw the movie several times at the theater and don't remember that line either.

I do.