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Academy Awards: Why?

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I know they did this last year, as well, but why are they now having 10 films inthe best picture category for the Oscars?
It's hard enough for me to get out to 5 movies a year that don't feature talking animals. To see 10 that are nominated for Best Picture before the award show is damn near impossible for me.
Why did they do this?
 
I know they did this last year, as well, but why are they now having 10 films inthe best picture category for the Oscars?
It's hard enough for me to get out to 5 movies a year that don't feature talking animals. To see 10 that are nominated for Best Picture before the award show is damn near impossible for me.
Why did they do this?

They figure the awards will attract a bigger TV audience if there are more best picture nominees that viewers have actually seen.

--Justin
 
So Christopher Nolan can get invited to the dance, but still never make it with the prom queen.
 
It's all The Dark Knight's fault. Highest grossin' movie of the year, no Oscar nod for best picture even though everyone and their mother saw it in theaters. It showed a disconnect between the award nominations and the public, so they increased the number of best picture nominations, but The Hurt Locker still beat out Avatar.

Go figure...
 
From Wiki...

At the 1st Academy Awards ceremony (1928), there was no Best Picture award. Instead, there were two separate awards, one called Most Outstanding Production, won by the epic Wings, and one called Most Artistic Quality of Production, won by the art film Sunrise. The awards were intended to honor different and equally important aspects of superior filmmaking, and in fact the judges and the studio bosses who sought to influence their decisions paid more attention to the latter - MGM head Louis B. Mayer, who had disliked the realism of King Vidor's The Crowd, pressured the judges not to honor his own studio's film, and to select Sunrise instead. The next year, the Academy instituted a single award called Best Production, and decided retroactively that the award won by Wings had been the equivalent of that award, with the result that Wings is often listed as the winner of a sole Best Picture award for the first year. The title of the award was eventually changed to Best Picture for the 1931 awards.


From 1944 to 2008, the Academy restricted nominations to five Best Picture nominees per year. As of the 82nd Academy Awards ceremony (for 2009), there have been 474 films nominated for the Best Picture award. Throughout the past 82 years, AMPAS has presented a total of 82 Best Picture awards. Invariably, the Academy Awards for Best Picture and Best Director have been very closely linked throughout their history. Of the 82 films that have been awarded Best Picture, 60 have also been awarded Best Director.[1] Only three films have won Best Picture without their directors being nominated (though only one since the early 1930s): Wings (1928), Grand Hotel (1932), and Driving Miss Daisy (1989). The only two Best Director winners to win for films which did not receive a Best Picture nomination are likewise in the early years: Lewis Milestone (1928) and Frank Lloyd (1929).


However, in 2009, The Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences announced that the number of Best Picture nominees would be increased from five to ten. The expansion was a throwback to the Academy's early years in the 1930s and '40s, when anywhere between eight and 12 films were shortlisted (or longlisted). "Having 10 Best Picture nominees is going allow Academy voters to recognize and include some of the fantastic movies that often show up in the other Oscar categories but have been squeezed out of the race for the top prize," AMPAS President Sid Ganis said in a press conference. "I can't wait to see what that list of 10 looks like when the nominees are announced in February." [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Picture

Personally I think it would spark a lot more interest if they went all the way back and split the Best Picture Award back into two separate awards. One for epics(blockbusters I guess you would call them today), and a second award for most artistic picture.
 
Personally I think it would spark a lot more interest if they went all the way back and split the Best Picture Award back into two separate awards. One for epics(blockbusters I guess you would call them today), and a second award for most artistic picture.

But what about the epic that is also artistic...or the artsy film that somehow gets to the top of the box office?

Really, no matter how they slice and dice or expand the categories there will always be some problem, simply from the nature of opinions about art.
 
I know they did this last year, as well, but why are they now having 10 films inthe best picture category for the Oscars?
It's hard enough for me to get out to 5 movies a year that don't feature talking animals. To see 10 that are nominated for Best Picture before the award show is damn near impossible for me.
Why did they do this?

They figure the awards will attract a bigger TV audience if there are more best picture nominees that viewers have actually seen.

--Justin

Ironic because the only nominated films I saw were Black Swan and Inception neither of which was that good.
 
Personally I think it would spark a lot more interest if they went all the way back and split the Best Picture Award back into two separate awards. One for epics(blockbusters I guess you would call them today), and a second award for most artistic picture.

But what about the epic that is also artistic...or the artsy film that somehow gets to the top of the box office?

Really, no matter how they slice and dice or expand the categories there will always be some problem, simply from the nature of opinions about art.

It would be easy enough to create some distinction to separate the two types. Any movie that has a budget of over $100 million AND grosses more than $100 million domestic would be eligible for the epic award, any other movie would be eligible for the artistic award, for example.

The question is of course, whether the Oscars would gain back some of their ridiculously high ratings from such a move. The Oscar shows ratings today are very weak compared to those of 20-30 years ago.
 
I've seen Black Swan, Inception, Toy Story 3, and Winter's Bone. I'm gonna try to watch the other 6, but I doubt I'll make it.
 
As of yesterday, I've now seen Black Swan, Inception, Toy Story 3, The Fighter, The King's Speech, and The Social Network. I'm going to try to see True Grit and Winter's Bone soon. I normally don't see this many of the Best Picture nominations (even back when it was just five) this early or ever but there's something about this year...
 
The question is of course, whether the Oscars would gain back some of their ridiculously high ratings from such a move. The Oscar shows ratings today are very weak compared to those of 20-30 years ago.

Other than (I think) the Super Bowl, what on network TV doesn't get weak ratings compared to 20-30 years ago?

Twenty to thirty years ago, there were fewer channel options.

Presactly
 
I wonder if it isn't so much to get better ratings for the Oscar show, but to get more people to buy more tickets to more movies before the show.
Whatever the reason, I don't like it. But they never asked me.
 
I wonder if it isn't so much to get better ratings for the Oscar show, but to get more people to buy more tickets to more movies before the show.
It's a combination of factors: they hope including more popular films among the Best Picture nominees will increase the telecast's ratings and that the nominees still in theaters will get a box office boost (as well as a boost in DVD sales for all the nominated films either now or in the future).
Whatever the reason, I don't like it.
I don't like it either. I hope they go back to five soon.
 
I think it's great. It gives an opportunity for animated and comedy films that are deserving of Best Picture nominee status but are often snubbed in favor of more conventional films to receive recognition. 'Up' would have never had a shot at a nomination in a field of five, even though it has dramatic elements every bit as compelling as more conventional nominees.
 
Animated films would have a shot at Best Picture nominations and Best Picture wins, even in a field of five nominees, if there wasn't a separate Best Animated Picture category. The latter category exists precisely because the Academy wants to prevent an animated film from winning Best Picture.
 
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