Would have been nice to see the evil versions of the crew ,and Worf's reactions to them. 
Parallels should have made a stop in The Mirror Universe
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I think we can all agree on that. 
But DS9 already f*cked up the Mirror Universe by then. I think there should have been a separate episode altogether or better yet an arc for the Mirror Universe with a Terran Empire in it.
Well there could have been a reality where the Terran Empire was still in power.
Well there could have been a reality where the Terran Empire was still in power.
Absolutely. With 285,000 universes out there, not all of them have to have a Federation. If there can be more than one Federation (and we saw at least six in that episode), then there can be more than one Terran Empire.
Then it would have to be a different Mirror Universe, and not the same one where our Kirk and company ended up in.
Actually, it could've been a divergent branch off of that universe where Mirror Spock failed to implement his reforms for various reasons.
Well to see Worf deal with an evil Next Generation crew would be interesting in itself.
I love DS9 ,but they really dropped the ball with the Mirror Universe.
That opens up the complications as to whether any branched off universes existed all along but were just identical to the universes they "branched" off from until there was a divergence point, making a Terran Empire Mirror Universe not the same one as it would have existed all along with the Mirror Universe that we're familiar with.
In fact Parallels was going to have one of the Enterprises be from the Mirror Universe who hailed them towards the end but dropped it because of what DS9 did with it.
Actually Parallels first aired in November 1993. Crossover didn't air until May 1994.
They could have had a Mirror Universe trip and not stepped on DS9's toes.
Oh, and, I should say, I actually like DS9's Mirror Universe, though I'm probably one of the select few who do.
There's no reason to assume there aren't multiple "Mirror" universes.
There's also no reason to assume that we saw the same "Mirror" universe in every episode, just an alternate universe where the earlier events had occurred.
Heck, if universe A forks to become possibilities B and C, who's to say which one is the "original"? Neither of the Voyagers in "Deadlock" were more real than the other except from the perspective of those aboard them.
There's also no reason to assume that we saw the same "Mirror" universe in every episode, just an alternate universe where the earlier events had occurred.
Heck, if universe A forks to become possibilities B and C, who's to say which one is the "original"? Neither of the Voyagers in "Deadlock" were more real than the other except from the perspective of those aboard them.
For a TNG-era Terran Empire, read Diane Duane's excellent Dark Mirror.
For alternate universes in Star Trek's world to work, they have to branch off at certain points rather than be totally seperate, because too many past events depend of interferences from various futures. If they branch, time travellers from various futures move down the big multiverse tree and do their thing, but if they don't there are paradoxes - for example, how does the universe where the Borg won "Best of Both Worlds" happen if Picard, Riker and co weren't at the predestination paradox (according to Voyager) First Contact?USS Excelsior said:
By the nature of the premise it's impossible to know whether the MU visited in DS9 is the same "universe" as that visited by Kirk and company in "Mirror, Mirror."
And the second Worf jumps into this Mirror Universe he gets bitchslapped by a Mirror Wesley.
I'm another.
Exactly. If we are to assume there are 285,000 good Kirks (or half that number, whatever it is, I stink at math), then all, or most of them had to have visited an alternate MU at the same time as the one we saw on the show.
Of course, it's just as likely that there are several hundred (or thousand) universes where the Enterprise (either Federation or Empire) never visited Halkan at all, and missed getting caught in the ion storm.
Mirror Mirror aside, I never really cared for the mirror universe episodes. In Crossover, when Kira starts discussing Spock I cringed.
Doesn't make a lick of sense. I accept that Spock may have risen to the Supreme Commander of the Federation, and I can (just about) buy that Kira may have heard of him... but I refuse to believe that everyone in the entire galaxy had come up with a set of rules on how to deal with the next person to cross over from the alternate universe.
How many were at the meeting?
Doesn't make any sense. And the way they bounced back and forth between the universes made even less sense.
Doesn't make a lick of sense. I accept that Spock may have risen to the Supreme Commander of the Federation, and I can (just about) buy that Kira may have heard of him... but I refuse to believe that everyone in the entire galaxy had come up with a set of rules on how to deal with the next person to cross over from the alternate universe.
How many were at the meeting?
Doesn't make any sense. And the way they bounced back and forth between the universes made even less sense.
(shrugs) Given the chaos caused by the original E crew in Mirror, Mirror (they essentially laid the groundwork for the destruction of the Terran Empire) I think it's not implausible that the dominant government of the time would not want any further intervention from the "primary" reality, and would take steps to make sure it couldn't happen.
Given that the Federation has the whole Omega Directive thing going on, which can hijack ships, this almost seems low-key by comparison.
Given that the Federation has the whole Omega Directive thing going on, which can hijack ships, this almost seems low-key by comparison.
Or one where the Kirk we know and his landing party never materialized in that universe because there weren't ion storms in both universes. Spock remains loyal to Kirk and the Terran Empire continues on its eventual path to being overthrown (the Halkans' prediction).
I for one liked the ones we saw. I remember really enjoying the universe where Worf climbs up the command track faster and becomes first officer -- picking up on Riker telling him he thought he'd make a good first officer. Not to mention marrying Troi and having other children.
See, as Worf bounced around, the differences were minor, becoming more and more pronounced as he went from one quantum universe to the other. Probably the universes closest to ours may diverge in only slight ways, and the further away one gets from one's quantum universe, the greater the changes in each universe.
You see, the quantum universe theory, as I recall, means that everything that can happen does in infinite multiple realities. Rather mind-boggling, isn't it.
