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Russell T Davies yes/no

Wow, someone's having a massive sense of humour failure.

Jokes are supposed to be funny. That was not; it was simply disgusting.

No, it was funny.

Not even slightly. I don't think it was disgusting, but it was certainly in bad taste.

I'm also starting to learn that I should just stay out of this forum. Every damn thread turns into a pissing contest between the same 2 or 3 posters.
 
Jokes are supposed to be funny. That was not; it was simply disgusting.

No, it was funny.

Not even slightly. I don't think it was disgusting, but it was certainly in bad taste.

I'm also starting to learn that I should just stay out of this forum. Every damn thread turns into a pissing contest between the same 2 or 3 posters.

Didn't used to be that way. Was the nicest forum on the board... Little sick of it now to be honest.
 
Some people who try to really bash RTD and call him a hack, proclaiming the later seasons of his successful tenure as show runner to be the worst period ever in the history of Doctor Who look like idiots because they haven't been vindicated in any meaningful way, it's just subjective opinion and it gets worse when they forcibly impose their opinions on others.

RTD turned out a fair bit of rubbish during his time as show runner and was certainly getting more repetitive, but he did more good than lasting harm.
 
Why would you even begin to link the idea of whimsy to the idea of homosexuality, then?

Because most of the gay people I know are, you know, whimsical, Sci. They're happy people. They enjoy life, and the frivolity therein. Why in hell wouldn't I link the two? What kind of depressing-ass friends do you have? :wtf:

And why would you then follow it up by calling Moffat's work "Doctor Who for the heterosexual man" as though that made it superior to RTD's Doctor Who (which, since you're contrasting them, is implicitly being said to be for the homosexual man)?
Okay, take a moment and go back to what I said. Where did I say anything was superior to anything else? In fact, I believe I said that the only difference was that it was missing RTD's whimsy, and was Who for the "heterosexual man". Therein lies the joke. Therein lies the subtly. Therein lies the ability to make conversation without screeching to halt with gasps of righteous indignation. Not everyone lives on a flip-switch to drama, such as yourself.

You created an assumption (as you do each and every time you post here) about what people believe and think, based solely on your own life experiences. So, I guess the question is why you, Sci, believe homosexuality is automatically inferior to heterosexuality? Because I never said any such thing.

As for anyone else in any other forum, if they have the inability to separate their own prejudices from their perspective, that is not my responsibility. Most of them would take "offense" at anything I said, ever, because you know I'm "not one of them". And without pack-mentality, many feel insecure posting here. Especially when they are forced to concede to someone else's opinion... :shrug:
 
I'm also starting to learn that I should just stay out of this forum. Every damn thread turns into a pissing contest between the same 2 or 3 posters.

Didn't used to be that way. Was the nicest forum on the board... Little sick of it now to be honest.

I know. It's turned into a regular "Gallifrey Base". I blame Bones. :lol: :p

Some people who try to really bash RTD and call him a hack, proclaiming the later seasons of his successful tenure as show runner to be the worst period ever in the history of Doctor Who look like idiots because they haven't been vindicated in any meaningful way, it's just subjective opinion and it gets worse when they forcibly impose their opinions on others.

RTD turned out a fair bit of rubbish during his time as show runner and was certainly getting more repetitive, but he did more good than lasting harm.

Agreed! Personally, I was always vocal about anything I disliked about RTD. But, I was equally vocal when he did something I approve of (SEE: Torchwood: Children of Earth, and the entire Eccleston year). Which, much like JNT and the gang, I'm through with and ready to move on. I think this would be a great "last RTD thread" to have. But, I doubt that will be the case... ;)
 
No, it was funny.

Not even slightly. I don't think it was disgusting, but it was certainly in bad taste.

I'm also starting to learn that I should just stay out of this forum. Every damn thread turns into a pissing contest between the same 2 or 3 posters.

Didn't used to be that way. Was the nicest forum on the board... Little sick of it now to be honest.

I know Bob, and I know I don't always help matters so sorry :(
 
^Yeah, I mean if there's some kind of "serious" vibe going on here, then I apologize if I attribute a negative light, as well.
 
Jokes are supposed to be funny. That was not; it was simply disgusting.

No, it was funny.

Not even slightly. I don't think it was disgusting, but it was certainly in bad taste.

I'm also starting to learn that I should just stay out of this forum. Every damn thread turns into a pissing contest between the same 2 or 3 posters.

I find that judicious use of the ignore feature has massively improved my experience here.
 
No, it was funny.

Not even slightly. I don't think it was disgusting, but it was certainly in bad taste.

I'm also starting to learn that I should just stay out of this forum. Every damn thread turns into a pissing contest between the same 2 or 3 posters.

I find that judicious use of the ignore feature has massively improved my experience here.

I feel like if I did that then half the forum would cease to exist. :lol:
 
Not even slightly. I don't think it was disgusting, but it was certainly in bad taste.

I'm also starting to learn that I should just stay out of this forum. Every damn thread turns into a pissing contest between the same 2 or 3 posters.

Didn't used to be that way. Was the nicest forum on the board... Little sick of it now to be honest.

I know Bob, and I know I don't always help matters so sorry :(

Yep, you're the main culprit, you hater and troll you.
 
It's turned into a regular "Gallifrey Base".
So RTD is praised for everything he's ever done at vomitous levels, posts magically disappear, the "elite" fans get to break the forum rules all they want while the "little people" get insta-banned for doing the same thing, Ian Levine shows up every once in a while to make an ass of himself, and some condescending douche bag fucktard who thinks he's better than everyone else and is so far up RTD's ass he pops out his mouth has to put

Cheers,
Jon Blum

at the end of every bloody post?
 
Yep, you're the main culprit, you hater and troll you.

:lol:

I think...;)

Nah I do bite too easily, but I'm trying to reign this natural urge!

Easy to do. I often find myself replying then half way through typing think "It's not worth it".

Yeah I need to start doing what I do at work, write angry email but don't send it, then come back to it half an hour later and usually tone it down a tad :guffaw:
 
Erm...

Rose - no
The End of the World - no
Aliens of London/World War Three - no
The Long Game - no
Boom Town - no
Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways - no
The Christmas Invasion - no
New Earth - no
Tooth and Claw - no
Love and Monsters - no
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday - no
The Runaway Bride - no
Smith and Jones - no
Gridlock - yes
Utopia - no
The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords - no
Voyage of the Damned - no
Partners in Crime - no
Midnight - no
Turn Left - meh
The Stolen Earth/Journey's End - no
The Next Doctor - no
Planet of the Dead - no
The Waters of Mars - no
The End of Time - (to quote Mr William Smith) AW HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!
 
It's turned into a regular "Gallifrey Base".
So RTD is bashed for everything he's ever done at vomitous levels, posts magically get ignored, the "elite" fans get to break the forum rules all they want while the "little people" get insta-banned for doing the same thing, Bones shows up every once in a while to make an ass of himself, and some condescending douche bag fucktard who thinks he's better than everyone else and is so far up Moffat's ass he pops out his mouth has to put

Cheers,
The

at the end of every bloody post?

...err... :( :whistle:


Cheers,
The
 
Capt Pickirk, I'm really curious what was so good (or maybe just so acceptable) about Gridlock that its the only episode that gets a yes :lol:
 
Why would you even begin to link the idea of whimsy to the idea of homosexuality, then?

Because most of the gay people I know are, you know, whimsical, Sci. They're happy people. They enjoy life, and the frivolity therein. Why in hell wouldn't I link the two? What kind of depressing-ass friends do you have? :wtf:

I know some whimsical gay people and I know some very earnest gay people. I've never seen a link between the two, anymore than I ever saw a link between whimsy and, say, hair color.

And why would you then follow it up by calling Moffat's work "Doctor Who for the heterosexual man" as though that made it superior to RTD's Doctor Who (which, since you're contrasting them, is implicitly being said to be for the homosexual man)?
Okay, take a moment and go back to what I said. Where did I say anything was superior to anything else? In fact, I believe I said that the only difference was that it was missing RTD's whimsy, and was Who for the "heterosexual man". Therein lies the joke. Therein lies the subtly. Therein lies the ability to make conversation without screeching to halt with gasps of righteous indignation.

The, the entire point of "a is to b as c is to do" is to make a comparison of relationships between two subjects. You compared the relationship between the whimsy of RTD DW and the earnestness of Moffat DW to the relationship between homosexuality and heterosexuality -- after you've spent a lot of time talking about how Moffat's DW is better than RTD DW.

Now, you say you didn't mean to imply that heterosexuality is inferior to homosexuality, and I accept that. If you worded it poorly, that's fine.

But do you see where a reasonable person could therefore conclude that you were saying that homosexuality is inferior to heterosexuality? You worded things so that you're making an A-is-to-B-as-C-is-to-D analogy while talking about how A is better than B. It's not unreasonable to conclude that you therefore also think that C is also better than D.
 
The entertainment industry seems to have a more easy going attitude towards gayness and seems more common place on TV shows and movies today in comparison to even the 1990s and early 2000s, not so long ago, with the gay room mate in Scott Pilgrim vs. the World and Ben Linus' gruff henchman with a male mistress in Lost.
 
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