First REAL trailer for HBO's A Game of Thrones

[Shurik]

A Feast For Crows is definitely slower than previous three books, but it gets really good in the second half. I liked it much more on second reading.

While it doesn't have anything on the scale of you-know-what from the third book,

Spoiler: stuff

it's really fun to see Cercei's downfall. The bitch had it coming.

 

[label]

Regarding the fourth book, I've not heard any universal claim of it being disliked. I loved it.

Check a lot of the reviews on Amazon.com.

http://www.amazon.com/Feast-Crows-S...=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291671832&sr=1-4

Out of the 900 or so reviews almost 500 rated it 3 stars or below. I can't discount that many, consistent negative reviews completely....... so clearly the aggregate opinion is that the fourth book is not anywhere close to on par with the first three books.

 

[JD]

Well, hopefully if the show continues past 2 or 3 season he'll decide to get A Dance With Dragons finished. Or we'll just get the story on TV first.
I realized, we haven't really seen the Stark kids other than John Snow. I think I saw a brief shot of one of the girls, but it flashed by so quick it was hard to tell.

 

[Hugo Rune]

My favourite modern Fantasy series bar none and this show is looking quite lovingly created. Very much looking forward to it.

And regarding the 4th book. I think it is the weakest of the books released so far, but the quality of the writing MORE than makes up for the shortfall in storyline movement, and yet still it's a book that goes places and moves pieces. The biggest issue is that overall I feel it covers those characters which are nowhere near as well loved as those who will be covered in Dance of Dragons.

I think the low-star reviews are a tizzy-fit backlash of fans not feeling their favourite characters being serviced properly. But, Martin wrote such a huge story for these two books he felt it best to complete each characters story in their respective book rather than leave them all on literal cliffhangers at the end of book 4 with half of their stories to be told. At least in this way the characters are well served in book 4, it just depends on how much you like those characters.

I don't like rating things but just for an idea:

Book 1: 9/10
Book 2 : 9/10
Book 3: 9/5/10
Book 4: 8/10

I personally feel that the books should be mandatory reading for anyone who calls themselves a fantasy fan. I don't expect everyone to enjoy it as it's desperately dark, ruthless and graphic. Yet, it is different than a lot of the other material out there and any fan should expose themselves to all the styles.


Hugo - Winter is almost here...

 

[Skywalker]

I liked AFFC, its only problem is that it didn't cover any of the storylines I was most interested in. Those will all be in A Dance with Dragons, though. At least, that's the plan.

I'm probably going to reread the books after I finish what I'm currently reading.

 

[Peter the Younger]

A Feast For Crows is definitely slower than previous three books, but it gets really good in the second half. I liked it much more on second reading.

I think half of it was people upset that their favorite characters were not in the book, and in their place were new storylines about character we hadn't seen previously. The people of Dorne, especially, left me with a very "Nikki and Paolo" feeling (sorry, couldn't resist the Lost reference.)

 

[Shurik]

A Feast For Crows is definitely slower than previous three books, but it gets really good in the second half. I liked it much more on second reading.

I think half of it was people upset that their favorite characters were not in the book, and in their place were new storylines about character we hadn't seen previously. The people of Dorne, especially, left me with a very "Nikki and Paolo" feeling (sorry, couldn't resist the Lost reference.)

Those chapters were not among my favorite, but GRRM connected them well to the story.
He also added more chapters about Ironborn, which I liked much more than Dorne chapters.

Spoiler: stuff in 4th book

But then there are Brienne's wanderings around a war-torn country, which are basically a rehash of Arya's chapters from books 2 and 3.

 

[Colonel Midnight]

^ What you put in the spoiler was the one part that really dragged down AFFC for me. Talk about a cure for insomnia, IMO.

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[Shurik]

^ What you put in the spoiler was the one part that really dragged down AFFC for me. Talk about a cure for insomnia, IMO.

Cheers,
-CM-

Same for me.

Spoiler: same stuff in 4th book

Ok, we got it, life in Westeros sucks for everyone, especially if you are a poor villager (or a Stark), that was made clear in Arya's chapters in the previous books. Here Brienne just wanders around, accidentally discovers that Arya is alive, sees someone who may or may not be the Hound, gets captured by BWB and is hanged. To be continued in about 10 years.

 

[sidious618]

Regarding the fourth book, I've not heard any universal claim of it being disliked. I loved it.

Check a lot of the reviews on Amazon.com.

http://www.amazon.com/Feast-Crows-S...=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291671832&sr=1-4

Out of the 900 or so reviews almost 500 rated it 3 stars or below. I can't discount that many, consistent negative reviews completely....... so clearly the aggregate opinion is that the fourth book is not anywhere close to on par with the first three books.

Clearly? No. Are you aware of the tendency of fans to go apeshit if something is not exactly to their liking? AFFC was different from the other books but not bad. I'd say it was the best written, actually.

 

[label]

Clearly? No. Are you aware of the tendency of fans to go apeshit if something is not exactly to their liking?

Sure. I see it all the time on Amazon. The vocal minority who's pissed things aren't exactly to their liking complain the loudest. However, even if I discount half of the 500 or so negative or less than positive reviews to that group, there's quite a few thoughtful, intelligently written criticisms of the book and that's been echoed even in this thread by our fellow BBS'rs so I think it's reasonably to assume that the book wasn't as universally loved as his first three which appear to be all 5 star efforts.

AFFC was different from the other books but not bad. I'd say it was the best written, actually.

Well, I've about talked myself into reading the first 3 at some point for sure so I'm sure once I complete that book I'll want to complete the 4th book as well just being the completist I am. I think, however, given how long it takes for Martin to get his butt in gear and finish the series that I'm going to take 2-3 month breaks between each book and space out the 4 over the period of a year and hope that the 5th book comes sometime in the next couple years.

 

[The Squire of Gothos]

I'm looking forward to the series, if only because a mate at work is an extra, one of Sean Bean's guards.

Apparently fart humour goes down well with Bean

 

[Scout101]

I've only read 2/3rds of the 4th book, currently working my way through it, but don't see that it's that bad. Can definitely see complaints that it's a bit slower and more *wandering* for lack of a better term, but still good. The pace just seems to have slowed down quite a bit. Can't really speak to the whole thing, as my understanding is that half the stories get wrapped up here, and half in the book that is delayed in perpetuity, but enjoying it anyway.

Just wish I could stop reading this thread and spoiling myself That was in the ballpark of my guesses regarding Jon's little mystery, but accidentally read the Brienne one as well. Oh well, as seeing how things happen is most of the reason to read them, not just getting the answer. Plus, after Martin slaughtered just about every character in the books, hard to get too attached to anyone left...

 

[mimic]

Amazon asked me three times if I wanted to keep A Dance With Dragons on preorder before I finally clicked 'no.' I figure if Martin ever does finish the book the internet will let me know.

This series will be awesome, though.

 

[Colonel Midnight]

^ What you put in the spoiler was the one part that really dragged down AFFC for me. Talk about a cure for insomnia, IMO.

Cheers,
-CM-

Same for me.

Spoiler: same stuff in 4th book

Ok, we got it, life in Westeros sucks for everyone, especially if you are a poor villager (or a Stark), that was made clear in Arya's chapters in the previous books. Here Brienne just wanders around, accidentally discovers that Arya is alive, sees someone who may or may not be the Hound, gets captured by BWB and is hanged. To be continued in about 10 years.

^ Concur with what you put in the spoiler code. Not to mention, the POV character those chapters are written around just seems to be a one-trick pony (for want of a phrase).

Hopefully, though, ADWD is incrementally closer to publication. Last I saw/heard on the Web, GRRM is about 5 chapters away... (And if wishes were fishes... )

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[Venardhi]

The five chapters thing came from someone from his publisher at a convention and has been confirmed by several others since. Those five chapters could be amongst the several he has rewritten 10+ times over the last year though.
It would make sense that he might have extra incentive to get it done by January though, as that would put its release right around the premiere of the show and give it a bit of synergy with HBO's advertising blitz.

 

[Skywalker]

I honestly just read something a couple days ago that said he might actually be done by the end of the year, but now I can't for the life of me remember where I read it. And how many such reports have we heard in the last five years, anyway?

I agree that if anything's going to motivate him to finish ADWD and get it out there, the premiere of Game of Thrones would probably be it.

 

[Admiral_Young]

New poster for "Game of Thrones" and a trailer. I seriously can not wait for this.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=75124

 

[Hyperspace05]

Looks very good!

I've started reading the books after I saw a recent HBO trailer for it, and I'm now close to the end of the 2nd book.

 

[Evil Twin]

I totally want a small version of that poster for my cubicle to replace the the small FOTR poster I've had hanging there for years now.

Oh, and a big one for my bedroom of course.